MSFS 2020 Auto FPS App

[mmcmah 453]

14 minutes ago, Paladin2005 said:

Is there any idea, why this tool is close to unusable to me due to second long stutters and generall stuttery experience when flying around.

When i dont use it, i have more or less stable 40-60 fps (LOD 200, 4K resolution, DLAA, DX11, most settings on High or Ultra).

Do i have to deactivate something in the graphic settings so have this great experience most people describe?

Post a picture of how you have it set up.

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4 hours ago, Paladin2005 said:

Is there any idea, why this tool is close to unusable to me due to second long stutters and generall stuttery experience when flying around.

When i dont use it, i have more or less stable 40-60 fps (LOD 200, 4K resolution, DLAA, DX11, most settings on High or Ultra).

Do i have to deactivate something in the graphic settings so have this great experience most people describe?

You shouldn't have to deactivate anything to get it working well. It is most likely the app settings you are using are too aggressive for your system's capability. Can you post up your main system specs and the app settings you have set.

[Langeveldt 296]

First time user of Auto FPS (I used the auto TLOD program and it was great).
 

I run a mid range gaming laptop with a 3080 and am looking for 45FPS with FG on.

What's the verdict on auto cloud quality?  Do we leave it on or off?  I'm a bit worried about the change back and forth between medium and high killing my immersion but I haven't tested enough yet.  What do you guys do?  Does the whole bank of clouds sort of pop back and forth in quality or is it more subtle?

Edited May 8 by Langeveldt

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10 hours ago, Langeveldt said:

First time user of Auto FPS (I used the auto TLOD program and it was great).
 

I run a mid range gaming laptop with a 3080 and am looking for 45FPS with FG on.

What's the verdict on auto cloud quality?  Do we leave it on or off?  I'm a bit worried about the change back and forth between medium and high killing my immersion but I haven't tested enough yet.  What do you guys do?  Does the whole bank of clouds sort of pop back and forth in quality or is it more subtle?

It's really up to you and the only way to find out is to try it. If you are concerned about clouds switching quality all the time, note that they (currently) only switch quality when you are at TLOD min and your FPS is still lower than your target FSP, ie as a last resort, and you can set the minimum TLOD level at which the clouds recover so the higher you set this the less likely you are to see cloud quality changing very often.

In a soon to be released update, I will be expanding the cloud quality reduction feature to be trigger-able based on GPU load and act independently of TLOD automation.

[Sonosusto 714]

Yeah, my hard stop is keeping clouds ultra. Everything else can suffer since my focus is usually in the clouds flying. Haha. I have since switched back to Dynamic LOD using VERY small TLOD increments to help with stutters on TO and Approach/Final. So far so good.

My hardware is limiting.

[FBW737 519]

On 5/7/2024 at 9:51 PM, Reset XPDR said:

That will do it, however any auto-start options will still be present and just won't activate and you shouldn't get an error message. You could also run the original installer and there is a remove option, which removes everything cleanly.

Well I do have the original installer at it seem there is no remove option. However there are is an option "do not configure Auto start" which I select and then install expecting that although the program is still installed it will not auto start with MSFS but it still does.

[FBW737 519]

OK, It turns out the remove option for DymanicLOD was added for version 0.3.3. I was using the 0.3.1 installer which did not have the remove option.😁

[markmco 29]

I freshly installed auto-fps (test) from the authors link a few pages back.

Set it to auto-start with MSFS.  The install appeared to go fine.

Reboot the PC, tried to launch MSFS.  Just a second of the round progress wheel, then nothing.  The sim will not launch.

Checked in task mgr;  it's not running.

This must be user error, but don't know what I did wrong.  It's a dedicated Win 11 MSFS desktop.  I purposely keep it very clean.

Help please!  ...and thank you.

 

PS:  I ran the recommended uninstall by ensuring the app is not resident.  Then ran uninstaller.  Received a message that the app was successfully removed.  Rebooted.  Still, MSFS will not launch.

 

 

 

Edited May 9 by markmco

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2 hours ago, markmco said:

I freshly installed auto-fps (test) from the authors link a few pages back.

Set it to auto-start with MSFS.  The install appeared to go fine.

Reboot the PC, tried to launch MSFS.  Just a second of the round progress wheel, then nothing.  The sim will not launch.

Checked in task mgr;  it's not running.

This must be user error, but don't know what I did wrong.  It's a dedicated Win 11 MSFS desktop.  I purposely keep it very clean.

Help please!  ...and thank you.

 

PS:  I ran the recommended uninstall by ensuring the app is not resident.  Then ran uninstaller.  Received a message that the app was successfully removed.  Rebooted.  Still, MSFS will not launch.

 

 

 

Sorry you are experiencing this. This is the first time I have heard of this happening.

If you had set the app to auto-start with MSFS, the only thing that directly changes with MSFS is the EXE.xml file, located in the MSFS root user directory (MS Store Version: "C:\Users\YOUR_USERNAME\AppData\Local\Packages\Microsoft. FlightSimulator_8wekyb3d8bbwe\LocalCache\ or Steam Version: "C:\Users\YOUR_USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft Flight Simulator").  It adds this specific section and removes it when you select uninstall:

  <Launch.Addon>
    <Disabled>False</Disabled>
    <ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>
    <Name>MSFS2020_AutoFPS</Name>
    <Path>C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\MSFS2020_AutoFPS\bin\MSFS2020_AutoFPS.exe</Path>
  </Launch.Addon>

For troubleshooting purposes, try renaming EXE.xml to EXE.xml.bak and then see if MSFS starts. If it does start, your EXE.xml file may have become corrupted. If so, then message me your EXE.xml(.bak) file contents and I will see if I can work out what has become corrupted. If it still doesn't start then something else other than this app has corrupted your MSFS install and you will need to consider what else changed with your system around this time. In either case, rename EXE.xml.bak back to EXE.xml.

[markmco 29]

1 hour ago, Reset XPDR said:

Sorry you are experiencing this. This is the first time I have heard of this happening.

If you had set the app to auto-start with MSFS, the only thing that directly changes with MSFS is the EXE.xml file, located in the MSFS root user directory (MS Store Version: "C:\Users\YOUR_USERNAME\AppData\Local\Packages\Microsoft. FlightSimulator_8wekyb3d8bbwe\LocalCache\ or Steam Version: "C:\Users\YOUR_USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft Flight Simulator").  It adds this specific section and removes it when you select uninstall:

  <Launch.Addon>
    <Disabled>False</Disabled>
    <ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>
    <Name>MSFS2020_AutoFPS</Name>
    <Path>C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\MSFS2020_AutoFPS\bin\MSFS2020_AutoFPS.exe</Path>
  </Launch.Addon>

For troubleshooting purposes, try renaming EXE.xml to EXE.xml.bak and then see if MSFS starts. If it does start, your EXE.xml file may have become corrupted. If so, then message me your EXE.xml(.bak) file contents and I will see if I can work out what has become corrupted. If it still doesn't start then something else other than this app has corrupted your MSFS install and you will need to consider what else changed with your system around this time. In either case, rename EXE.xml.bak back to EXE.xml.

Thank you for the detailed response.

I ended up doing a repair on MSFS from the XBox Live app (running PC version).   That seemed to do it.  I had one strange CTD, then seemed to be okay.  

I will test more tonight.

From the shear number of users that run this, it must be something I did or something unique on my install.  Not sure.  I am tempted to try the install again because it seems like an amazing app.  I certainly appreciate all the effort you put into this.

 

Best,

Mark

 

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56 minutes ago, markmco said:

Thank you for the detailed response.

I ended up doing a repair on MSFS from the XBox Live app (running PC version).   That seemed to do it.  I had one strange CTD, then seemed to be okay.  

I will test more tonight.

From the shear number of users that run this, it must be something I did or something unique on my install.  Not sure.  I am tempted to try the install again because it seems like an amazing app.  I certainly appreciate all the effort you put into this.

 

Best,

Mark

 

I'm glad you got MSFS going again. If you do install the app again, try installing without any auto-start options so that you can guarantee that the EXE.xml and any other MSFS file isn't modified.

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AutoFPS v0.4.2.14-test can be downloaded here. Feedback welcome as always.

Summary of changes since v0.4.2.13-test:

• Extended the new decrease cloud option based on GPU load to all AutoLOD automation methods to provide users using FPS Tolerance or FPS Sensitivity a choice of either TLOD or GPU Load to activate and recover cloud reduction to suit their use case. IFR and VFR flight modes will use the same cloud reduction method. The user will be notified in status bar if GPU load is selected and GPU-Z is not running.
• Default OLOD values are now restored immediately when the Auto OLOD option is unchecked.
• Reduced reset window position timer from 60 seconds to 10 seconds to reduce changes of inadvertent resetting of the window position.

Summary of all changes since v0.4.2.10 formal release:

• Functionality changes
  • Added decrease cloud option with user definable cloud reduction and recovery GPU loads for all AutoLOD automation methods.
    • Requires GPU-Z companion app to be running in order to provide the app with GPU load information.
    • To better facilitate this, GPU-Z can now be started at any time and the GPU-Z gpu load reading is now a 5 second average to smooth out transient GPU load spikes.
    • The user will be notified in status bar if GPU load is selected and GPU-Z is not running.
    • IFR and VFR flight modes will use the same cloud reduction method.
  • Added LOD Step Size setting in AutoTLOD automation mode to allow users experiencing stuttering issues to try different LOD step sizes to help resolve the issue. The default value is 5.
• UI improvements
  • The user can progressively hide parts of the UI when the app window is double clicked anywhere that is not a control. The first double click will hide the expert settings section (if applicable), the second will hide the general settings section and a third double click will restore all hidden settings sections. The last state in use will be restored when next starting the app.
  • The app will now remember whether it was visible in previous session and will restore that state on next startup.
  • The app will now automatically reset window position to default (50,50) if the app is restarted within 10 seconds of last closing to allow users a simple way to recover window visibility if last window saved position is off screen and can't otherwise be recovered.
• Miscellaneous fixes
  • Fixed logging function so that sim values will be recorded even if app window is hidden.
  • Fixed issue where MSFS could be incorrectly detected as being paused when over water at a near constant speed due to rounding.
  • Default OLOD values are now restored immediately when the Auto OLOD option is unchecked.

Decrease Cloud Quality (original) TLOD method:

Decrease Cloud Quality GPU Load method with GPU-Z running:

Decrease Cloud Quality GPU Load method without GPU-Z running:

[prolixindec 28]

Thanks for all your work on this. One of the must-have utilities. 

[GSalden 4,719]

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When Unchecking OLOD the app (b14) crashes.. It happens on both pc’s.

Freshly downloaded and just want to Uncheck OLOD.

When restarting the app OLOD is unchecked.

That did not happen with all other test versions ( tested up to b12 before )

Edited May 11 by GSalden

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2 minutes ago, GSalden said:

@Reset XPDR

When Unchecking OLOD the app (b14) crashes.. It happens on both pc’s.

Freshly downloaded and just want to Uncheck OLOD.

That did not happen with all other test versions ( tested up to b12 before )

Thanks for letting me know. I'll look into it but I think I know what it is already and will come up with a fix very shortly. In the interim, if you only uncheck when all three app status items are green(ie. you are in an active flight) it shouldn't crash.