For people who are interested:

You can use FSHud with Simple Traffic
In my many experiments it creates much more traffic and the performance is way better then FSLTL / AIG.
Just install Simple Traffic and select only BGL in traffic settings.

Cons:
- The downside is that all the planes have pointy noses, but for me that is not a problem. (It uses default Asobe with different paintjobs)
- Also the traffic is not live, but it is a really believable environment with the right planes / liveries at right airports.

Pro:
- Much better performance / FPS
- Much more traffic everywhere / also enroute
- Easy install, no need to ever start other programs with FSHUD

For me the most important thing is a believable environment, I don't need every plane at the right gate or Live Traffic. 
I want a believable flightsimulator not a traffic simulator.

 

Edited June 19, 20241 yr by rob0203

I agree. Although I use real time traffic with FSLTL, I do agree with you about whether or not it's worth the sacrifice in performance when, as you say, you can have a perfectly believable world using just Simple Traffic. I used Simple Traffic for quite some time, but I have to say, I got a little tired of the models. I now use Just Flight FS Traffic (models only) and it looks beautiful, and of course it works nicely with FSLTL. I was recently at the point of switching back to just using Simple Traffic because of the performance, but then I installed LSFG from Steam and now there is no need to do so! I'm a very 'happy camper!' 

15 hours ago, rob0203 said:

Cons:
- The downside is that all the planes have pointy noses, but for me that is not a problem. (It uses default Asobe with different paintjobs

It is not "just pointy noses", those models have nothing, absolutely nothing in common with their real world counterparts. On top of that, total nonsense combinations like an Easyjet paint on a A330-lookalike is just ruining immersion like hell.

Personally, I am amazed and stunned how people want better and better looking airport models, world renditions, details on airports like terminal interiors and correct advertisments on jetways, but accept this utter rubbish of AI models all over...

1 hour ago, AnkH said:

Personally, I am amazed and stunned how people want better and better looking airport models, world renditions, details on airports like terminal interiors and correct advertisments on jetways, but accept this utter rubbish of AI models all over...

I do think that those who don't mind the default models also won't mind the default airports, lack of terminal interiors and couldn't care less about correct advertisements...

Having said that: I use AIG models and liveries together with FSHud (and FSLTL!) so I do mind about the models and correct liveries but... i don't care at all about better looking airports and I certainly do not care at ALL about terminal interiors or correct advertisements.

In short: to each his own. We all have different preferences. What amazes and stuns me is that people still don't understand that, haha!

3 hours ago, AnkH said:

It is not "just pointy noses", those models have nothing, absolutely nothing in common with their real world counterparts. On top of that, total nonsense combinations like an Easyjet paint on a A330-lookalike is just ruining immersion like hell.

Personally, I am amazed and stunned how people want better and better looking airport models, world renditions, details on airports like terminal interiors and correct advertisments on jetways, but accept this utter rubbish of AI models all over...

Yes, like I said,, it is just what you want. I want a smooth as possible flight simulator and don’t care about this. I want a good flight simulator, not a traffic simulator. So if I am at Amsterdam and see a lot of KLM, Transavia etc. then that is good enough for me.

I also have three screen with popouts running and a lot of hardware, so everything comes at a cost.

 

 

Edited June 20, 20241 yr by rob0203

The day I installed FSLTL, I uninstalled Simple Traffic.

3 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

The day I installed FSLTL, I uninstalled Simple Traffic.

Me2.  Plus, nav lights on ST planes were heinous compared to the lovely ones used in FSLTL.  Maybe that changed dunno....

Of course FSLTL is way better then Simple Traffic.

That was not the point of this topic, it was FSHud in combination with...........................

Simple Traffic somehow works really well with FSHUD, populating the airports and skies with a lot of traffic with good performance.

Probably because it is BGL based.

Edited June 20, 20241 yr by rob0203

1 hour ago, rob0203 said:

Probably because it is BGL based.

No, because the ugly models do not need a lot of resources. If you use FSHud for AI traffic, those .bgl do not even play any role. 

I get your point, but I still do not understand how someone can talk about "good flightsimulator, no traffic simulator" if proper traffic around you is one of THE key factors when flying airliners. Or why the heck you use FSHud? You want a good flightsimulator, not a good ATC simulator, no? 😉 

1 hour ago, AnkH said:

No, because the ugly models do not need a lot of resources. If you use FSHud for AI traffic, those .bgl do not even play any role. 

I get your point, but I still do not understand how someone can talk about "good flightsimulator, no traffic simulator" if proper traffic around you is one of THE key factors when flying airliners. Or why the heck you use FSHud? You want a good flightsimulator, not a good ATC simulator, no? 😉 

Yes, I understand but with the BGL selected I get way more traffic also enroute. And also the right traffic in the right regions, like KLM in Holland and for example Delta in the US. So the BGL files do play a role or does FSHud know where to put all of the correct airlines at the correct locations?

With all respect but what is proper traffic? Uncontrolled aircraft which you don’t hear talking to Atc at empty airports? 

I just say, I don’t care how it looks but can of course imagine other people do. Like some people like to run a airline schedule simulator where every aircraft is at the correct time at the right gate, not for me important at all. 
 

 

Edited June 20, 20241 yr by rob0203

23 hours ago, rob0203 said:

For people who are interested:

You can use FSHud with Simple Traffic
In my many experiments it creates much more traffic and the performance is way better then FSLTL / AIG.
Just install Simple Traffic and select only BGL in traffic settings.

Cons:
- The downside is that all the planes have pointy noses, but for me that is not a problem. (It uses default Asobe with different paintjobs)
- Also the traffic is not live, but it is a really believable environment with the right planes / liveries at right airports.

Pro:
- Much better performance / FPS
- Much more traffic everywhere / also enroute
- Easy install, no need to ever start other programs with FSHUD

For me the most important thing is a believable environment, I don't need every plane at the right gate or Live Traffic. 
I want a believable flightsimulator not a traffic simulator.

 

Thanks for sharing your findings. Good to have all kinds of options thanks to the flexibility of FSHud.

 

Btw FSHud also works fine with the GA mod:

https://flightsim.to/file/51413/gamod-offline-version

It adds lots of small GA aircraft traffic. Very nice when you fly to / from smaller airports.

 

2 hours ago, rob0203 said:

So the BGL files do play a role or does FSHud know where to put all of the correct airlines at the correct locations?

Of course they do. That's why this option in FSHud is called "BGL" 🤣. Just ignore the usual off-topic-nagging.

Edited June 20, 20241 yr by RALF9636

1 hour ago, RALF9636 said:

Thanks for sharing your findings. Good to have all kinds of options thanks to the flexibility of FSHud.

 

Btw FSHud also works fine with the GA mod:

https://flightsim.to/file/51413/gamod-offline-version

It adds lots of small GA aircraft traffic. Very nice when you fly to / from smaller airports.

 

Of course they do. That's why this option in FSHud is called "BGL" 🤣. Just ignore the usual off-topic-nagging.

Thanks for the tip, will try that one!

Also noticed that FSHud also already adds some GA when I selected BGL only.