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X-Plane12.1 is Final...

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59 minutes ago, drix9 said:

xp 12.1.0

Pick a random low IFR airport... I can still see the ground when I shouldn't. I'm done with this sim for good.

Take note sim companies, you won't get my money ever again unless you deliver a fully working product.

Forgive me, I don't understand what you mean.
Whether you can see the airport or pieces of scenery around the airport depends entirely on the weather visibility.
If the visibility says 5 nm you will see this:
EC-HDV-757-IN-ROTAZIONE.jpg

If the visibility says 50 nm you will see this:
malpensa-31-037.jpg

I took these photos a few years ago at Malpensa airport, positioned in the same spot with the camera pointing towards the control tower.
The mountains on the horizon are the Alps and are 40 miles away from my shooting point.

If XP12 RC - with the same weather conditions - respects these photographs, it means that it works correctly.
If, however, with the same weather visibility, XP12 does not respect those photographs (for example, visibility is reported as 40 miles, but the Alps are not clearly visible as in the photo) then it means that it is bugged.

You who previously wrote your comment, what did you notice that was abnormal in your 12.1 RC ?
It's simple curiosity.

[Pc Intel i3-4160 3,6 GHz, 8 GB di RAM, GeForce RTX-3060 12 GB, Win10 Home 64 bit]
 

3 hours ago, efis007 said:

[images snipped but appreciated]

I can see the ground in both of those images. Clearly real life is not a fully working product and, thus, I shall not give it another dime! 🙂

6 hours ago, drix9 said:

xp 12.1.0

Pick a random low IFR airport... I can still see the ground when I shouldn't. I'm done with this sim for good.

Take note sim companies, you won't get my money ever again unless you deliver a fully working product.

Your funny. I guess you will never be using any more sims. your lack of understanding of the complexities of flight simms baffles me. As for the weather, if the world could provide all the data necessary to get real real weather, the internet bandwidth would not be enough and there would be no hardware in this world that would be able to process it all. Billion dolllar super computers cant do it,

1 hour ago, Malaromane said:

I can see the ground in both of those images. Clearly real life is not a fully working product and, thus, I shall not give it another dime!

Without more information I can't understand what you mean.
How high above the scenery are you flying?
What does the weather report say?
Are you using real weather?
Are you using some old (or outdated) addon that might interfere with XP12's weather representation?

Maybe if you post a couple of pictures of your 12.1 we can figure something out. 

[Pc Intel i3-4160 3,6 GHz, 8 GB di RAM, GeForce RTX-3060 12 GB, Win10 Home 64 bit]
 

7 hours ago, drix9 said:

xp 12.1.0

Pick a random low IFR airport... I can still see the ground when I shouldn't. I'm done with this sim for good.

Take note sim companies, you won't get my money ever again unless you deliver a fully working product.

Change the RVR to 0.0 you will see absolutely nothing 🧐I would include a screenshot but there is nothing to see 🥱

AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D, RTX 4080S, Ram - 32GB, 32" 4K Monitor, WIN 11.

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7 hours ago, drix9 said:

Take note sim companies, you won't get my money ever again unless you deliver a fully working product.

That post will get them running to the office.

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57 minutes ago, efis007 said:

Without more information I can't understand what you mean.
How high above the scenery are you flying?
What does the weather report say?
Are you using real weather?
Are you using some old (or outdated) addon that might interfere with XP12's weather representation?

Maybe if you post a couple of pictures of your 12.1 we can figure something out. 

My apologies, efis. My post was just a lame attempt at humour. 

17 hours ago, Malaromane said:

My apologies, efis. My post was just a lame attempt at humour. 

It's me who apologizes, I was replying to user drix9 but I quoted the wrong user (and I replied to you instead of drix9). 🤦‍♂️🤭

[Pc Intel i3-4160 3,6 GHz, 8 GB di RAM, GeForce RTX-3060 12 GB, Win10 Home 64 bit]
 

I think what @drix9 is calling out is the lack of proper visibility (or the lack thereof) depiction when viewed from an above layer.

So say something like this:

Premium Photo | View towards Half Dome and the valley beyond on a day with low  visibility due to the smoke coming from the Ferguson Fire Yosemite National  Park California

 

I think he does have a point actually and even Austin IIRC mentioned that along with precipitation affecting light scattering and visibility (i.e. rain shafts) as something needed for a Level-D certificate as well.

This is quite common with temperature inversion, morning mist etc...

Edited by Inu

What's wrong in all versions of XP 12 on my end is the cloud layers, not the visibility.

When I set a 200 ft ceiling and I'm at 300 ft, I should be in the cloud and not able to see the ground.

XP 12 still can't do this, but XP 11 can.

43 minutes ago, drix9 said:

and not able to see the ground.

cloud layers do not set the visibility, the visibility slider sets the visibility.

what you probably want is

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/control-pad-for-x-plane-12/id1645141064

or at least popout the instructor station (i by default), then reduce the visibility to IFR conditions, otherwise the worst conditions you will get is mvfr (ground visible from 1500 feet or less, couple miles horizontal visibility)

Edited by mSparks

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