37 minutes ago, jcomm said:

Dear @abrams_tank, don't get me wrong, but these posts of yours always look like more then enjoying MSFS 2020, you hate X-Plane ?

I can somehow understand your rationale because as "The Uninstaller" I hate all flightsims, each one at a time ... but heck ! you look like your main goal is to try to show how successful MSFS is, and how completely broken XP goes... (which btw is far from being the reality, at least regarding X-Plane...). 

This probably stems from some bad experience you had in the past with XP, or simply the fact that somehow you never believed in that platform, or even you did and were deeply disappointed at some point, but there are others who think differently, others who enjoy both platforms and can actually find good reasons to use them all plus a few other flightsims, and there are guys like me who can always feel disappointed with all of them for this or for that.

Regarding Inibuilds, I honestly didn't like their products for XP11... Bought the Beluga and the A310, but seldom used either... and I honestly seldom use their MSFS A32N... and the 310 was hangared for good after a few sessions trying to enjoy it... I didn't buy the 300 as I don't believe I would feel more satisfied, so, I couldn't really care less if they are abandoning XP... I would care a lot more about FSLabs or Active Sky saying they would no longer support Prepar3d ... I am used to PMDG abandoning platforms like they did with Fly! 2 after users believed in their will to develop the 767 and the 757, and now they just did with their P3D line of products, leaving users with the pants in their hands ... but then, their products are GOOD! and I have to close my eyes to their sometimes irritating business strategies and enjoy what they deliver ...

 

Not really. It's just to track how the flight sim market is moving. I said I studied business before so this is like a case study for me, to see how the market moves when you have a disruptor (ie. MSFS) with a noticeable tech lead that comes into the market.  Now the disruption is coming again for a second wave with MSFS 2024. But there was also alot of dispute before on whether iniBuilds was permanently moving to MSFS with some naysayers claiming they weren't going all in with MSFS. Now it seems they are putting all their eggs in the MSFS basket and willing to risk it with MSFS 2020 and MSFS 2024.  Since I enjoy flight simulation and I also enjoy learning more about business, I am interested in the business choices of the 3rd party developers.  And as an MSFS user, of course having iniBuilds exclusively is a nice win, because as I mentioned before, iniBuilds is an integral part of MSFS now and they have helped to bolster MSFS.

If you track my other threads, I am also fascinated with FSLab's business choices since they are kind of stuck in between a rock and a hard place with Fenix going after the A319/A320/A321 market in MSFS, which is FSLab's bread and butter. I will probably be participating in the FSLabs discussions in the future and also creating threads about FSLabs vs Fenix, as I am wondering what they will do to fend off Fenix, especially with FSLab's slow movement into MSFS.

Edited August 3, 20241 yr by abrams_tank

1 minute ago, abrams_tank said:

Not really. It's just to track how the flight sim market is moving. I said I studied business before so this is like a case study for me, to see how the market moves when you have a disruptor (ie. MSFS) with a noticeable tech lead that comes into the market.  But there was also alot of dispute before on whether iniBuilds was permanently moving to MSFS with some naysayers claiming they weren't going all in with MSFS. Now it seems they are putting all their eggs in the MSFS basket and willing to risk it with MSFS.  Since I enjoy flight simulation and I also enjoy learning more about business, I am interested in the business choices of the 3rd party developers.  And as an MSFS user, of course having iniBuilds exclusively is a nice win, because as I mentioned before, iniBuilds is an integral part of MSFS now and they have helped to bolster MSFS.

Ah!  Thank you @abrams_tank !!!! Now I see !!!! 

Well, it had came to my mind that that might be the case ( professional bias ) because many of your posts do look like "market analysis", so now I have it confirmed - it's professional bias 🙂

If I had it too I would keep putting clouds, precipitation, thunderstorms and low visibility in pretty much all of my posts 🙂

And, indeed, from that POV I have to agree with a good deal of your posts anyway... 👍

2 minutes ago, jcomm said:

Ah!  Thank you @abrams_tank !!!! Now I see !!!! 

Well, it had came to my mind that that might be the case ( professional bias ) because many of your posts do look like "market analysis", so now I have it confirmed - it's professional bias 🙂

If I had it too I would keep putting clouds, precipitation, thunderstorms and low visibility in pretty much all of my posts 🙂

And, indeed, from that POV I have to agree with a good deal of your posts anyway... 👍

No problem!

See my comments here about FSLab's business situation:

I am constantly analyzing the business movement of many of the 3rd party devs in the flight simulation industry. Cheers!

7 minutes ago, jcomm said:

Ah!  Thank you @abrams_tank !!!! Now I see !!!! 

Well, it had came to my mind that that might be the case ( professional bias ) because many of your posts do look like "market analysis"

If you go to business school, you will often have to read about "case studies."  IMO, I think what is happening now in the flight simulation market would make a very good case study.  Maybe they will actually write a "case study" about what is happening in the last few years in flight simulation and business students will study it one day in the future! Cheers!

Edited August 3, 20241 yr by abrams_tank

3 hours ago, jcomm said:

If I had it too I would keep putting clouds, precipitation, thunderstorms and low visibility in pretty much all of my posts 🙂

"If"? Haha that's funny. What type of bias has you downplaying iniBuilds work like that? You're not the first person I've seen talking like that either and every time it is said, it comes from someone with some type of bias. "Meh, iniBuilds are bad anyway, so you can have 'em". Despite your sentiment, iniBuilds are killing it and selling well to all sorts of simmers. The A300 is a work of art and flies beautifully so you should give it a try. You can't blame iniBuilds for what's going on with their A310 and A320 when MS is the one determining the cadence of the updates for those planes. So don't bring them down because their business decision seems to be bad news for the sim you really like.

1 hour ago, Krakin said:

"If"? Haha that's funny. What type of bias has you downplaying iniBuilds work like that? You're not the first person I've seen talking like that either and every time it is said, it comes from someone with some type of bias. "Meh, iniBuilds are bad anyway, so you can have 'em". Despite your sentiment, iniBuilds are killing it and selling well to all sorts of simmers. The A300 is a work of art and flies beautifully so you should give it a try. You can't blame iniBuilds for what's going on with their A310 and A320 when MS is the one determining the cadence of the updates for those planes. So don't bring them down because their business decision seems to be bad news for the sim you really like.

Well, that's a good point @Krakin...

I'm not going to comment on what I didn't like about their products for XP11, and regarding MSFS I only tried the freeware offers, starting with the A310 and then the A32N v2.

There are aspects of the A32N I actually like, and kind of somehow "puzzle" me because they're tied to "the feel"... I really liked the feel of their v2 of the A32N, although systems wise it is unfinished, has several bugs, and IMHO isn't up to the level of the freeware FBW 32N... But, again, I did like the feel.

OTOH the A310 was a disappointment regarding the feel, for such an heavy aircraft, and I am lucky to have a friend who's been FO in the 310, and captain in the 320/21 and NEOs... He's feedback was also important because ofc I never flew the real thing 😕

But you have a good point there, if that's indeed the case - ASOBO / MS controlling when the updates are going to be ready / released, and that's not Inibuilds fault.

 

On 8/2/2024 at 7:23 AM, vadriver said:

 

aka Asobo .......

the A350 and A380 are commercial products.

 

  

On 8/2/2024 at 7:07 AM, abrams_tank said:

I especially look forward to their A350, A380, Beluga, and A400M for MSFS.

The A330s coming with 2024 are also inibuilds.

Edited August 3, 20241 yr by Tuskin38

31 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

the A350 and A380 are commercial products.

 

  

The A330s coming with 2024 are also inibuilds.

Yeah, I think the A330 will also be awesome when it comes from iniBuilds!

2 hours ago, jcomm said:

OTOH the A310 was a disappointment regarding the feel, for such an heavy aircraft,

If I remember correctly, it was pretty much their first foray into using the Asobo CFD but still felt better than most airliners that don't use it. It just needs some tweaking to get right within the limitations of the sim. I'm pretty sure it's already flying fantastically in 2024 if Seb and the crew have already applied the necessary updates to it.

I'm also glad Inibuilds is focusing on MSFS. I love their 3rd party airports and I am most looking forward to their A350!

5 hours ago, captain420 said:

I'm also glad Inibuilds is focusing on MSFS. I love their 3rd party airports and I am most looking forward to their A350!

Yup, their A350 looks very interesting!