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16 hours ago, LRBS said:

Watching all these previews, I can't see anywhere how to set RVR or visibility values under WX options. One would expect to have this option available for a flight simulator. 

Ahem, cough cough, that's not what this game is about...

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2 hours ago, KERNEL32 said:

Ahem, cough cough, that's not what this game is about...

Your insight into flight simulators is remarkable!

Numerous individuals, including pilots, non-pilots, and students pursuing an IFR ticket or practicing approaches, use flight simulators to practice various approaches that require certain visibility. It's an invaluable tool for them, but the lack of this feature diminishes the overall experience.

747 Captain for the last 39 years, and still learning. 

1 hour ago, LRBS said:

Your insight into flight simulators is remarkable!

Numerous individuals, including pilots, non-pilots, and students pursuing an IFR ticket or practicing approaches, use flight simulators to practice various approaches that require certain visibility. It's an invaluable tool for them, but the lack of this feature diminishes the overall experience.

I have enjoyed MSFS immensely, since its release dispite  its flaws. I want realisim just as much as the next guy, but one has to remember, MSFS is an entertainment product and priced as such. It has never claimed to be a Level D simulator. 

Rick 

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17 minutes ago, rickjake said:

MSFS is an entertainment product and priced as such. It has never claimed to be a Level D simulator. 

absolutely.

most IFR training devices are non Level D simulators and they can still be used for IFR training. You can practice IFR with MSFS, but you can not log IFR hours towards your license. hardly anyone around here needs a FAA certified training device.

https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/78442/what-are-some-faa-approved-simulators-for-home-that-i-can-log-time-on

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2 minutes ago, turbomax said:

most IFR training devices are non Level D simulators and they can still be used for IFR training. You can practice IFR with MSFS, but you can not log IFR hours towards your license. hardly anyone around here needs a FAA certified training device.

I completely agree with you. And the more realistic the better.  Just pointing out that for a $60-$100 entertainment product that is designed for all users, you need to have realistic expectations.

 

Rick 

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1 hour ago, rickjake said:

MSFS is an entertainment product and priced as such. It has never claimed to be a Level D simulator. 

 

1 hour ago, rickjake said:

  Just pointing out that for a $60-$100 entertainment product that is designed for all users, you need to have realistic expectations.

 

 

1 hour ago, turbomax said:

absolutely.

most IFR training devices are non Level D simulators and they can still be used for IFR training. You can practice IFR with MSFS, but you can not log IFR hours towards your license. hardly anyone around here needs a FAA certified training device.

 

So, let's be honest here. There is no mention of a Level D simulator or IFR certification. I mentioned only practicing IFR procedures and matching the visual requirements on the approach plates as closely as possible to the minimums. Perhaps we should stay away from this misinformation about product price and acknowledge that P3D or X-PLANE, also entertainment products, for almost the same price as MSFS, has a way to customize visibility. Some of us, regardless of what is available and is a good option to enhance the sim experience, is more important to argue. It is very disappointing and unproductive.

747 Captain for the last 39 years, and still learning. 

21 minutes ago, LRBS said:

It is very disappointing and unproductive.

Not sure what you are trying to say here.  This forum is a place for discussions and opinions. Which myself and others have given. Some of those opinions you may not like or agree with. Fair enough, but disappointing and unproductive?   I highly doubt that anything discussed here will have any inpact on what MSFS does with their software. 

Misinformation?  P3D was never really an entertainment product and X-Plane also have some commercial use side of it. 

Anyway, I said all I am going to say on this. Hope someday MSFS delivers what your looking for.  

 

Rick 

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