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SecondaryScalling = 2.0 helps with DLSS

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Just found this... 

For me it works quite well.

 

 

Cheers Jan 
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But what happens when you use 4k 3840x2160, he is using 2560x1440 ?

So same happens, means does it work ?

cheers 😉

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If not completely wrong, secondary scaling set to 2.0 simply let the sim being rendered in 2x the resolution you selected ingame. Means: you can achieve this using render scale set to 200 or simply using DSR factors.

Greetings, Chris

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Tried it but no impact, DLSS as expected still gives me blurry glas cockpits and interestingly enough more shimmering on the A380 overhead panel. Went back to TAA and secondary scaling of 1.0

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After a bit of testing it is not what I have expected. So it might work but unfortunately not for me. 

Cheers Jan 
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9 hours ago, AnkH said:

If not completely wrong, secondary scaling set to 2.0 simply let the sim being rendered in 2x the resolution you selected ingame. Means: you can achieve this using render scale set to 200 or simply using DSR factors.

Setting render scaling slider in MSFS options will not alter the secondary scaling number. It will instead alter the primary scaling number (in User_cfg.opt file). So changing secondary scaling like in the video is a different thing than moving the render scaling slider in MSFS.

And it's worth noting that in DLSS, as opposed to TAA, there is no render scale slider in MSFS options.

C:\Users\tions\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft Flight Simulator\UserCfg.opt

 

 

Edited by Fielder

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Bottom line is setting secondary scaling to 2.0 works great for me.

Setting primary scaling to 2 in either userCfg.opt or in MSFS render slider to 200 or using DSR in NCP, means the app closes down and won't open a flight. My GPU cannot handle that. And MSFS pops up a window telling me my GPU won't work.

But with secondary scaling 2 in usercfg.opt and primary at 1.0, then I can fly in DLSS or TAA with native FG ON, in a heavy scenery airport with Render Preset on Ultra and both LOD's at 200 with no issues at all. I don't bother with auto FS apps because I don't need them. I can do both LODs at 200. In DLSS I use Quality.

But I'm running at 1440p, not 4K. I know I could not get away with these settings if I had a 4K monitor.

Thanks to OP. I had not considered secondary scaling before.

 

 

 

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Can anybody explain what secondary scaling does compared to primary scaling?  What is the difference?

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Dosen´t realy work for me  -. back to as i had before..

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With this, you're just doing DLAA at 2x your native resolution with extra steps. It's a bit of a boneheaded way of going about it and you'll potentially just tank your performance.

Edited by Sethos

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