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It appears this years Navigaph Survey will be delayed

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25 minutes ago, brinx said:

People's sentiment/behavior may change between November and January

Chances of that are zero. Sentiment/behaviour simply doesn't change that quickly, As we have learnt from all the past navigraph and every other survey besides, meaningful changes wrt sentiment and behaviour takes years.

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3 hours ago, brinx said:

But you are confused about the meaning of the word "influence" as it applies here.

I am not confused at all because there is nothing to be confused about; they have clearly stated „With releases still being rolled out and tested, we have decided to postpone this year’s FlightSim Community Survey until early 2025“ and we are all not stupid and know what that means.

3 hours ago, brinx said:

The issue for you is that you don't like when they are doing it for your personal reasons or agenda.

Which kind of agenda? I simply don‘t like when a survey/study isn‘t neutral anymore. I don‘t know how this could be made any clearer by them. It‘s exactly my point. And it has also nothing to do with XP vs any other sim, since more users may simply have sticked to 2020 now and a part of them will have moved to the new sim in 6 months. So no big changes in that regard. I just dislike the fact that we won’t have any neutral survey anymore because we know now how involved they are in some particular sims. And as we say „don‘t trust a study that you haven‘t falsified yourself“. That‘s it. You don‘t have to share my opinion bit it won‘t change anything about how I don‘t trust the data anymore.

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3 hours ago, mSparks said:

Chances of that are zero. Sentiment/behaviour simply doesn't change that quickly

I have no idea.

8 minutes ago, Franz007 said:

I am not confused at all because there is nothing to be confused about; they have clearly stated „With releases still being rolled out and tested, we have decided to postpone this year’s FlightSim Community Survey until early 2025“ and we are all not stupid and know what that means.

You are going on and on about them trying to influence results which makes no sense because they'd be nullifying their own data which is used for business reasons. No company would want to make a business/financial decision based on inaccurate or incomplete data, neither does navigraph. They stated the purpose is to "capture the sentiment of the community more comprehensively and accurately."

The DATA is no less neutral whether it is from November, December, or January. I don't get your point and why you are so stuck on it.

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13 minutes ago, brinx said:

No company would want to make a business/financial decision

Oh you mean like those really good reviews of really bad things you see around the place. Thats why the internet is so dangerous, you dont know if the reviews are true.

2 hours ago, brinx said:

No company would want to make a business/financial decision based on inaccurate or incomplete data, neither does navigraph

Except if they were dependant on a sim-company and the success of its new product after having signed an agreement or what else. And that’s what can be read beetween the lines. I’m coming back to the same again and again: a survey from a company involved in one of the survey’s partner is not a neutral survey. Every legal expert will tell you that.

You don’t have to share my opinion but you won’t make it change either. So perhaps the best is to simply leave it to that.

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