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FFS SAAB 340 Panel Re-do for FSX

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I wanted to gauge (no pun intended) interest in a fix for the FFS SAAB to work correctly in FSX.If you have this aircraft you'll know that if you copy it over to FSX (It was designed for FS9) that the two fuel gauges are stuck at empty.I've created a replacement gauge that looks exactally the same as the original with a revised panel.cfg to incorporate it. I'm still working on the formulas on it so it will report similar data as the stock gauge.Anyway, I wanted to see if there was interest in me posting this 'fix' here in the file library.(Especially since this is a great product from a now defunct company)TIAJL

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Cool.I'm hoping to have the left gauge finished tonight and get it copied over and modified for the right gauge tomorrow...So it'll be posted in the library by this weekend at the latest.These were the only two gauges that I was aware of not functioning correctly. Were there any others that I maybe overlooked?

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Sure, it would be great to have the Saab in FSX. My questions are - how does the Saab perform in FSX, will it work with FSX SP1 and 2, and can I expect a fps drop with this aircraft?Regardless of the answers, thanks for your work on this project.Dale

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I haven't had any issues. FPS seems about the same as the free versions out there.When I get the gauges done I'll include a quick 'how-to' on what needs to get copied from FS9 for it to work correctly in FSX.

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Well, you have my interest. I was hoping this action would bring the 340 to life in FSX. However, I'm wondering what version of FSX has testing of applicability taken place. Will the aircraft work under SP2? What happens when you activate DX10?Thanks so much for giving us hope that the 340 will fly in FSX.fb

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Except for the fuel gauges how do you properly import your FFS Saab 340 to FSX?I

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The config manager is a mess. That is the other thing that does not work correctly in FSX. I've tried a few things and short of making a 'dumb' FS9 structure with the files and copying everything when you make a config change I'm not sure how else to do it.Still working on it and making slow progress.

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I've made some headways on getting the config manager to work with FSX. It involves creating a symbolic link. If you are familiar with Linux you'll know what I mean. If not, it is similar to a shortcut, but different.If you have Vista there is a built in command line utility that will work. If you are using XP you'd have to use a free third party app to create the link.Basically I'm tricking the config manager into thinking that the FSX directory is FS9 by making a symbolic link caled 'Aircraft' in the FSX folder that points to the SimObjectsAirplanes' directory.There may be more involved, but this may help with other 3rd party aircraft that work fine in FS9 but get messed up in FSX due to the new folder structure.I'll post more tonight when I hopefully have the gauges finished as well.J

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We really appreciate your efforts. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm really looking forward to getting the Saab back into the air in FSX.Thanksfb

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Good news. I have been able to successfully get the load config utility to work with FSX. Directions will be included with the revised gauge / panel data.Easy to fix for Vista...a little more time consuming for Windows XP (needs 3rd party free utility to create a symbolic link)

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Going to go on a test flight but it looks like they are as done as they will get.Only issue:FFS does not set the flag as to when the system panels are turned off, so even with the battery and all power off the fuel gauges will still show the quantity of fuel available.I have tested system failures and such and the gauges do work for those correctly.Otherwise they appear to work correctly in all other situations.I'll be wrapping these up along with a How-To to not only apply these gauges but get the SAAB converted into FSX within the next hour or so.

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OK a few questions for you guys:1. the nature of the .gau files does not allow me to interact with them. As such there are a few quirks. The Master Alarm will go off unless you disable it as the 'system' still thinks that the fuel is low. Any problems with that? I figure as long as you monitor your gauges you should be fine.2. I am making a Right Low Fuel Indicator and a Left Low Fuel Indicator to go over the existing lights since they are stuck on. The new ones will accurately reflect this setting.3. I'm also going to make a new low fuel light on the master control panel since the default one just continues to blink.Finally, this is about as good as it will get with this plane unless someone sends me the source code for the .gau files.I'm hoping to finish up the lights tonight. I've tested both the 2D and VC and the fuel gauges work correctly.

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Are you kidding? Right now we don't have anything (Saab) for FSX so whatever you accomplish is fantastic. I don't know about any of the other users but I don't care. Bring it on sir. :-)fb

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The master alarm is certainly no big deal to me as long as I can shut it off. Hey, I really appreciate you doing this, I have been hoping for a good turboprop for FSX.Dale

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I've also sent an e-mail to the one time pres at FFS to see if there would be any chance I could get a copy of the source as a one time update to the gauges for FSX. We'll see if I hear back.Had a little of 'real life' get in the way today, so not much progress.What's done so far:Right & Left Fuel Gauges work as expected in FSXLoad Config Utility works with FSXBasic How-To on moving the FFS Package from FS9 to FSXWhat's left:Modify the Right & Left Low Fuel Lights to cover up the faulty onesModify the main control low fuel light to cover up the faulty light

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I just uploaded V1 to the library tonight. It includes the following:Left & Right Fuel GaugesModified 2D and VC Panel.cfg filesHow-To copy FFS Saab to FSX and maintain Config Utility functionality.Enjoy!

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Hello Gang!Where can we download this aircraft? Can't find the American Eagle on the library.Thanks for any help!Sincerely,Dennis D. Mullert

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I established the link described in the install file. I thought this was going to be some kind of virtual link but the instruction created a folder under my FSX directory "aircraft." In this folder was every aircraft folder in my FSXSimOjbectsAirplanes folder. I'm just wondering why this duplication of files.Anyway, to a more important topic - the cockpit. I think I followed the instructions correctly but the aircraft's cockpit did not display. The aircraft was fine but there was no panel.Can you please help?ThanksFrank

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The Aircraft is no longer available for purchase. Flight Factory Simulations closed down their shop sometime last year. It is truely unfortunate as it was a great plane.

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1. The Aircraft folder is just that, it is a virtual link to the same location that the SimObjectsAirplanes directory points to. It did not make a copy of everything. This is needed as the Load Config utility expects a FS9 file structure to function properly.2. The panel.cfg files stored in the two directories in the downloaded file need to go into the SAAB 340 APanel and SAAB 340APanel.vc folders over the original files. If you browse to this location: AircraftFFS Saab 340 APanel and open up the panel.cfg file you should find (do a search) the following in the file in different locations:'Saab340FuelGauges!LeftFuelGauge' or 'Saab340FuelGauges!RightFuelGauge'If you cannot find these in that file, then you did not copy the panel.cfg file from the download into this directory.All of the other aircraft with this install (340B, 340 Argus) point to this location to get their panel configurations.Feel free to post here, or e-mail me at the address in the install.txt for further support questions.

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I don't know what results you obtained when you tested this package. But, the results of the instruction you provided on my system definitely copied every file from my c:fsxsimobjectsairplanes folder into the folder c:fsxaircraft folder. NOTE: My FSX install folder is C:FSX and not the default one.The panel.cfg files were copied correctly into the appropriate A and B folders. The guage files are in the correct folders.I verified the established "elevated" link by changing a set of entries in the aircraft.cfg file as I had duplicate texture-set entries for one of the repaints. When I changed the entries in one config file the other one changed automatically.So, I have an aircraft but no cockpit. I also tried running the aircraft's configuration program but the system displayed an error message saying that it could not find the correct aircraft.cfg file.fb

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If you want to e-mail me offline I'd love to help you out via something like VNC, etc. so I could see your actual file structure and config.

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Just a quick update, but this could be MAJOR news.I've been in contact and am communicating with a few of the original developers / coders of this aircraft. If I am able to get my hands on the source code for the gauges, the conversion over to FSX will be a lot 'easier' than it currently is and the fuel systems could be fixed.Stay tuned!

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I just found my installer and registration stuff back for the FS9 Saab. I can't seem to find the 1.1 update or the liveries / repaints installer - any chance someone here could send them my way?

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