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Starting to ask myself: Why Bother?

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8 hours ago, TacomaSailor said:

I used search everything to scan all my drives ( e.g. SystemAppData C:\ folder: ) and it finds 152 folders with the SystemAppData name.  NONE of them are associated with MSFS 2024.   

As you can see below, I renamed my wgs folder to back it up, then started up MSFS2024 and went to the controls settings and made a small change, then saved that and finished loading a flight. You can see a new wgs folder was created by the MSFS2024. I don't know what else to say, that's just what I see with my MS Store install of the sim. Apparently a MSFS2024 Steam install is quite different.

If I open the wgs folder I see two other folders, one called t, and the other with a long numerical name. If I open the long numerical name folder, I see more folders with long numerical names, and if I open those I see files with long numerical names, and if I open some of those files with a text editor, I finally find xml code that looks like the below (except much longer):
Al

<Context ContextName="COCKPIT_CAMERA">
        <Action ActionName="CAMERA_COCKPIT_PILOT_IFR_RESET" ValueEvent="0.000000" Delay="0.000000" Flag="2"/>
        <Action ActionName="CAMERA_COCKPIT_PILOT_IFR_SAVE" ValueEvent="0.000000" Delay="0.000000" Flag="2"/>
        <Action ActionName="CAMERA_COCKPIT_PILOT_LANDING_RESET" ValueEvent="0.000000" Delay="0.000000" Flag="2"/>
        <Action ActionName="CAMERA_COCKPIT_PILOT_LANDING_SAVE" ValueEvent="0.000000" Delay="0.000000" Flag="2"/>
        <Action ActionName="CAMERA_COCKPIT_PILOT_VFR_RESET" ValueEvent="0.000000" Delay="0.000000" Flag="2"/>
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Edited by ark

On 12/26/2024 at 9:42 PM, TacomaSailor said:

Yesterday 2024 was working perfectly.  My Bravo Quadrant profile was exactly as I wanted.  I could walk around, bend down, remove engine covers...etc.  I did a nice flight around Bryce Canyon with great scenery.   Landed at Bryce Canyon, took a walking tour of the airport and then gracefully shutdown the Skyhawk and ended the sim normally. My Thrust Master A320 flight stick worked a dream.  My keyboard acted as if it knew what I wanted. 

Today I return to Bryce Canyon and the Skyhawk.  ALL, yes ALL my custom profiles for the Bravo have vanished.  I cannot move around the aircraft.  Even the default keyboard and mouse profiles will not allow me to move around the aircraft.  Shift-C gets me in and out but nothing allows me to move.

I can remove most of the Skyhawk covers, chocks, but nothing I do allows me to remove the engine covers.  The little hand appears when I touch the cover but it does not move.

And, I suddenly developed horrible stutters looking around the cockpit.  

And, the sim needed 5' 45" to load with only three items in the Community folder.   And then it needed another 59" to go from the main menu to Ready to Fly.

The sim spent 150 seconds spinning it's wheels with the screen showing 14% VFS Activate - during that time the sim read almost nothing from any hard drive and did almost no network I/O.  One CPU was 85% busy and the others were idle.  Only the main thread was running and all other threads were Ready or User Input wait.

It seems that every time I get 2024 working properly and feel like I can make it my regular sim - I have a day like this where I basically have to start over programming controls and debugging actions.

Maybe, as others point out, it is early days and I am expecting way too much for a sim that cost only $129.   When it is good - it is great but today makes me regress to the stability of 2020.

 

 

I know what you mean, it never seems to behave the same way twice.

For me, the sim was ok before the 1.2.7.0 and 1.2.8.0 patches, performance wise. Now its a stutterfest, not little stutters either, big stop-start stutters.

I'm hopeful it will be resolved in short order.

Stu

i7 12700K , DDR4 64GB RAM @3600MHz, Asus Z690-Plus D4 MB, Gainward 4090 RTX Graphics, 850W Corsair PSU, Kraken AIO watercooler, Nvme 1TB ssd, 1TB ssd, 500GB ssd.

On 12/26/2024 at 9:42 PM, TacomaSailor said:

it is great but today makes me regress to the stability of 2020

This is the reason why you bother - you can appreciate the advances 2024 has made.

CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D  RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090
Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440
Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD 
External Storage Three 4Tb HDs

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Wakner - Thanks for the help!

I found the 2537590 folder under C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\userdata\1122195227

In that folder I find another folder \remote

In that folder I find 29 inputprofile_xxxxxxxxxx  files which do contain the details for each controller/airplane profile

Just for more info:  I found 2 additional folders with the 2537590 as part of their name and 14 files with 2537590 as part of their name.  Those files were outside the folders containing 2537590.  

I did find the 1250410 (msfs 2020) folders and files in the  C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\userdata\1122195227 (same folder as 2024)

Edited by TacomaSailor

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D  / MSI X870 Tomahawk Mobo / 64 GB DDR5 memory / RTX 4070 Super with 12 GB VRAM / AORUS FO48U 4k display
 NVMe for Drive C, an NVMe device dedicated to Flight Sim 2024 and a separate NVMe device for Flight Sim 2020 and an NVMe dedicated to 500GB of addons managed by AddonsLinker   / 1 GB Comcast Xfinity Internet connection / HP Reverb G2 / Tobii 5 Head & Eye Tracking

 

Yes, there are a whole bunch of files for both 2020 and 2024 that are well worth backing up somewhere safe!

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