January 15, 20251 yr Either SayIntentions or any alternative 3pd ATC robot, or staying with default ATC which is now decent enough for my typical use of the sim - flying short to medium hops in Buses or Boings 🙂 BTW: Does default ATC in Xp12 do NATs ? SayIntentions is getting several development updates, although I'm not sure if they apply equally to MSFS and XP12 ? It's a bit expensive, but heck, I also keep paying for Navigraph ... If any of you use SayIntentions with Xp12, please tease me 🙂 Edited January 15, 20251 yr by jcomm Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
January 15, 20251 yr Named NATs are not supported, but waypoints composed of lat-lon coordinates are. Formatting: DDmm[NS]DDDmm[EW], e.g. 4125N07145W. 7950X3D + 7900 XT + 64 GB + Linux | 4800H + RTX2060 + 32 GB + Linux My add-ons from my FS9/FSX days
January 15, 20251 yr I've been pondering SayIntentions myself, but their website says utterly nothing about setup...how the client is set up, if a third-party interface like XPUIPC is required, PTT functionality etc. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
January 15, 20251 yr 33 minutes ago, Bob Scott said: I've been pondering SayIntentions myself, but their website says utterly nothing about setup...how the client is set up, if a third-party interface like XPUIPC is required, PTT functionality etc. Installation is a simple "setup.exe", no external software or exe.xml mods needed. You can sign up at their pilot portal without purchasing the software. All the options, setup and knowledge base can be viewed there (again, without owning the software). PS There is a setup and options explanation video on their Youtube channel.  Edited January 15, 20251 yr by hs118 My MSFS 2020 repaints: Flightsim.to - Profile of HStreet Working on MSFS 2024 versions.
January 15, 20251 yr Traffic injection does not work for XP, everything else is and does not require any external tool. It is incredibly simple to setup, assign a key to the PTT function and start having fun. You can still get a free demo for 24 hours without any limitation. It is amazing what mostly one guy alone has been able to build. It does have some odd bugs here and there but is it 100 times more engaging than the default XP12 ATC Â
January 16, 20251 yr There's no Linux or Mac client for SayIntentions yet, right? 7950X3D + 7900 XT + 64 GB + Linux | 4800H + RTX2060 + 32 GB + Linux My add-ons from my FS9/FSX days
January 17, 20251 yr 15 hours ago, Bjoern said: There's no Linux or Mac client for SayIntentions yet, right? Correct. Currently Windows-only.
January 17, 20251 yr Author Well, last night flying the Zibo from LPFR ( Faro ) to LPPT ( Lisboa ) with default ATC I was faced for the very 1st time since I've been using default ATC with 12.1.3 with the unfamous "descend to 0" bug 😕 From there on the rest of the flight was impossible, ATC-wise... I would LOVE to have BATC in XP12. Yes I am considering SayIntentions, but I want to wait a bit longer and check what effective support will be given to this platform, given that I believe their strongest income should come from MSFS... Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
January 17, 20251 yr 3 hours ago, jcomm said: Yes I am considering SayIntentions, but I want to wait a bit longer and check what effective support will be given to this platform, given that I believe their strongest income should come from MSFS... SI's development definitely favours MSFS over X-Plane but even so, the X-plane support is there and lively. It's definitely better than BATC which has absolutely no support for X-Plane whatsoever. Edited January 17, 20251 yr by Malaromane grammar
January 17, 20251 yr 6 hours ago, jcomm said: From there on the rest of the flight was impossible, ATC-wise... You're throwing the towel too early as you can simply ignore that instruction and treat it as "at pilot's discretion". Â 8 hours ago, Malaromane said: Correct. Currently Windows-only. Thanks. Edited January 17, 20251 yr by Bjoern 7950X3D + 7900 XT + 64 GB + Linux | 4800H + RTX2060 + 32 GB + Linux My add-ons from my FS9/FSX days
January 17, 20251 yr Author 5 minutes ago, Bjoern said: You're throwing the towel too early as you can simply ignore that instruction and treat it as "at pilot's discretion". Â Thanks. Not exactly @Bjoern, at least in my case, because it entangled in a sequence of ATC events that never allowed me to get cleared to land, and as I landed "at my discretion", I "was given a number to call"... Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
January 17, 20251 yr 7 hours ago, jcomm said: descend to 0" bug Wont be surprised its fixed in next beta. If you couldnt land, its your problem nit ATC.
January 19, 20251 yr Author Meanwhile in a "unicorn" 😃 near you... https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/forums/topic/308618-autoatc-issues-and-discussion/#findComment-2840842 Auto-ATC stepping forward. I admit I never gave it a try, although some times I've said I would, but..., it looks promising / cool ! Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
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