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Two CTDs in two flights back to back

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On Sunday night I attempted KLAS to EGLL in the PMDG 777W in 2020. About six hours into the flight, a total crash to desktop with no warning messages.
Tried the same flight last night and again about five to six hours into the flight a CTD.
I've done hundreds of flights across the atlantic in the PMDG 777 without problems and haven't changed any settings or add ons.

Any way I can stop this happening? Is it likely to be a problem my end or at Microsoft / Asobos?

Thanks

Edited by BWBriscoe

AMD Ryzen™ 9 9900X3D, AM5, Zen 5, 12 Core, 24 Threads, 4.4GHz, 5.5GHz Turbo
64GB (2x32GB) DDR5 6000MHz Corsair Vengeance
32GB GeForce® RTX 5090 Graphics Card

Ive also had the same thing.  very strange.  Have you done a windows update recently ?

 
 
 
 
 
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3 hours ago, fluffyflops said:

Ive also had the same thing.  very strange.  Have you done a windows update recently ?

I think there was a windows update recently. I'm currently on windows 10 pro ver 19045.5371.

Is this a known issue? Is there any workaround?
 

AMD Ryzen™ 9 9900X3D, AM5, Zen 5, 12 Core, 24 Threads, 4.4GHz, 5.5GHz Turbo
64GB (2x32GB) DDR5 6000MHz Corsair Vengeance
32GB GeForce® RTX 5090 Graphics Card

20 minutes ago, BWBriscoe said:

I think there was a windows update recently. I'm currently on windows 10 pro ver 19045.5371.

Is this a known issue? Is there any workaround?
 

I only say this as people mentioned a sound issue with the new windows update, maybe this is causing it.

 
 
 
 
 
  913456

I had the same problem flying (PMDG 737) from KXNA-KSDF (A Pilots life flight), 1.5hrs into the flight then bang CTD, tried it again and same thing. Im on windows 11, so I believe it is a sim issue FS2020, It's been a long time since I encounter CTD while in FS2020.

Windows 11 - Samsung 990 Pro M.2 | Asus Prime Z690 | i7 12700KF HT | DeepCool LS520 SE | MSI 5070 Ti Ventus OC | 64GB G.Skill XMP II | Lian Li 216 LANCOOL RGB | TrackIr v5 | Honeycomb Alfa - Bravo - Charlie | MSFS 2024 - Samsung 990 Pro M.2 | Curved 27" MSI | JBL Quantum 810 

 

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Does this mean it's a server / Asobo issue? I've not seen it reported anywhere else...?

AMD Ryzen™ 9 9900X3D, AM5, Zen 5, 12 Core, 24 Threads, 4.4GHz, 5.5GHz Turbo
64GB (2x32GB) DDR5 6000MHz Corsair Vengeance
32GB GeForce® RTX 5090 Graphics Card

I had CTDs in both 2020 and 2024 last 2 days. I'm thinking it is not a server issue. I think it is a sound issue. And windows updates are the cause, but I'm guessing.

EDIT: It only happens now on a minority of the flights. But until about 2 days ago, it never happened with 2020 or 2024.

Edited by Fielder

5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB  PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.

 

To disable latest windows update:

Windows Settings

Windows update

Update history

(down at the very bottom) Uninstall Updates

5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB  PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.

 

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22 minutes ago, Fielder said:

To disable latest windows update:

Windows Settings

Windows update

Update history

(down at the very bottom) Uninstall Updates

Can you uninstall them all?

I went it to disable the ones that had been installed over the past few days and when clicking on them, I could only uninstall one of them. The others didn't give me the option to uninstall.

AMD Ryzen™ 9 9900X3D, AM5, Zen 5, 12 Core, 24 Threads, 4.4GHz, 5.5GHz Turbo
64GB (2x32GB) DDR5 6000MHz Corsair Vengeance
32GB GeForce® RTX 5090 Graphics Card

After you uninstall one, maybe others will then be available.

To uninstall updates, using Windows Advanced Startup Menu, just hold down the shift key while clicking on Restart and windows will restart in the Advanced menu. From there one of the menu settings will allow removing the last cumulative (monthly) or feature (yearly) updates.

5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB  PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.

 

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Will a fix come out for this or are we expected to make the changes ourselves?

AMD Ryzen™ 9 9900X3D, AM5, Zen 5, 12 Core, 24 Threads, 4.4GHz, 5.5GHz Turbo
64GB (2x32GB) DDR5 6000MHz Corsair Vengeance
32GB GeForce® RTX 5090 Graphics Card

After removing the last cumulative update, MSFS 2024 still CTD's on me. It always happens when I try to land. Makes no difference which airport. As soon as I get close to touch down. Not every time. About half the time. So in my situation, the problem was not Windows updates.

5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB  PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.

 

9 hours ago, Fielder said:

After removing the last cumulative update, MSFS 2024 still CTD's on me. It always happens when I try to land. Makes no difference which airport. As soon as I get close to touch down. Not every time. About half the time. So in my situation, the problem was not Windows updates.

which is interesting as its the same issue as me.  in the air fine, but its either on finals or taxiing in I get the issue.

 
 
 
 
 
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Happened AGAIN today. Flying EGLL-CYYZ, about five hours into the flight a total CTD.

This is totally ruining my MSFS hobby. I've spent so much money on this hobby and I can't complete a flight at all.

Can anyone help?

AMD Ryzen™ 9 9900X3D, AM5, Zen 5, 12 Core, 24 Threads, 4.4GHz, 5.5GHz Turbo
64GB (2x32GB) DDR5 6000MHz Corsair Vengeance
32GB GeForce® RTX 5090 Graphics Card

Have anyone read the Navigraph thread, an issue was found with their last update causing CTD.

Bill McIntyre

Asus StrixB650E-F Gamer, AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D, Corsair Titanium DDR5 64GB, Samsung 990 PRO-4TB M.2, (4) 2TB SSD's, Corsair H1150i liquid cooler, RTX 2080TI Founders Edition, (2) LG 34" HD Curved Monitor, Sound Blaster Audigy X, 1Kw PC Power & Cooling Power Supply, Corsair Obsidian Full tower Case. MSFS 2024, WIN11 Pro x64                                                                                                                                             

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