John, aren't you glad I am not a "Johnny on the spot" with these types of requests - shutting down your account that is. Obviously, you needed to vent and further respond. So, until you send me a private email with a notorized cease and desist letter from your attorney attached, you will have your account here, whether you post or not. :)By the way, I get those cease and desist things all the time. I will treat yours just like I do the others... BIN 'EM!!! :-lol

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>John, aren't you glad I am not a "Johnny on the spot" with>these types of requests - shutting down your account that is.>Obviously, you needed to vent and further respond. So, until>you send me a private email with a notorized cease and desist>letter from your attorney attached, you will have your account>here, whether you post or not. :)>I tried to quit all flight sim forums. Lasted a week... :7 L.Adamson

When did you do that? I don't ever remember an interruption in your "flow", so to speak. You sure you aren't having sympathetic illusions of having quit? :)

>When did you do that? I don't ever remember an interruption>in your "flow", so to speak. You sure you aren't having>sympathetic illusions of having quit? :)Two weeks ago, on a weekend, as my blood pressure was appearing to rise. :D Almost a solid week without reading anything, and a full week before posting again. It's been a fifteen year or so habit, and hard to break. :-hah L.Adamson

I don't believe you. I think you are delusional. Or, if you are telling the truth, I certainly missed your absence. I have to go check the records.... :-lol

Blimey John, this reads like your about to fall on your sword?Cool it and get out into the fresh air somewhere, take some deep breaths and be thankful your in good health, financially sound and able to consider doing what you do?There are many out there that envy you and are a 100 times worse off.Take a sabatical...............you'll be back.

If I were living in the Phoenix area, I'd be looking for a nice motorized sailplane instead of an LSA...no medical requirement, and a whole lot cheaper to keep/operate. Lots of good air for soaring in that area...best in the world, perhaps.Then there's the whole spectrum of advanced ultralights, autogyros, motorized parasails, etc. They look to be a lot of fun, too.I think you're too focused on the LSA...that's only one way to get into the air. Stop, drop back 5, punt, and pick a new strategy. Works a lot better than "Oh screw it all, goodbye cruel world..."CheersBob ScottATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-VSantiago de Chile

I think the problem is that everything requires a sport pilots license now, Parasail, motorglider, weight shift.

I'll get it edited once I get back home :)

Correct Chris--for two place flying, anyway. Sport Pilot gave me the chance to fly with a loved one, given my concerns over a medical waiver for my left eye with a loved one. All those aircraft Bob mentions have tripled in price due to Sport Pilot in the resale market and have least doubled in price in the new market. And, Sport Pilot now requires them all to be N-Numbered--most aren't. The backlog is now months to get the process going and legally, the aircraft can't be flown under Sport Pilot until the process is complete.I've considered a single place ultralight, but it is not very responsible as a husband or father to let risk leaving my family with no income to get in a "fix" of flying. My life insurance specifically excludes ultralights. I wasn't just interested in "flying around". But the market is simply locked now with scores of dishonest people hustling their aircraft under the Sport Pilot banner. I'm not made of money, and this isn't the first time this has happened to me. That's why I noted my ultimate feeling is GA flying is still an elitist pastime. The latest jerk I dealt with figures a thousand bucks spent, big deal. It is a big deal.-John

John, local flying clubs with C150s or C172s are still a good way to the PPL. Many are affordable to join and have the added benefit of reasonable charges per flight hour. Many CFI's are willing to give a student a bit of a break on hourly rates if you happen to find one.It IS possible to "get there from here" if you really want to do it:-)

The problem is that you need to have a medical to get your PPL.

Of course. Just had mine. Maybe I misunderstood...John can't get a medical or just doubts he can get one? I know a high time Charter Pilot who is color blind of all things. He's had a medical for over thirty years:-)Ron HamiltonPP ASEL

"John can't get a medical or just doubts he can get one?"There's really two issues here--one of risk and the other of being humiliated.It's guaranteed I would have to ask for a waiver. If I don't get one, I am not only out of a PPL, I am out of Sport Pilot, forever--FAA's rules, not mine. My left eye vision is caused by a neurological problem. There is no treatment or correction for it--it can best be described as having severe dyslexia--albeit in one eye. Try to prove to some FAA "suit" judging fitness for a waiver. If I had thousands of hours and was already a proven pilot, it's easy. But as a Sport Pilot student with less than a dozen hours transitioning to a PPL, that's a huge and expensive risk. As for being able to afford to fly PPL, it's actually cheaper as you don't have the limited supply issues that have turned Sport Pilot into a huge virtual used car lot waiting for suckers like myself. I've seen a number of fairly low time 172's I could afford and that would make for a good investment. Those that aren't for sale but owned by friends--I'd have no problem buying them if they came on the market.Overall though, I am just so discouraged after my experience. Can I afford to throw away a thousand bucks for some fraud? Yeah, but doing it once is enough for me to say to heck with it for a while. People see "new pilot" and want to treat me like a fool. I am not so absorbed in wanting to fly that I will tolerate that. I have to live with the embarrassment already with my family, who saw me waste money on this --self censored expletive-- excuse for a pilot back east. It's hard to explain to a spouse, or to a little girl who wanted to fly with her daddy, how daddy was duped... I am sure in a year or two I may feel different but for now, I need a break.