So all 3 screens on the right are good? I can see middle 2 are happy. Looks like far right might be fully there as well.

Are they all fully sync'd if the network communication is severed? All booted up to the same scenario and desired view, just not communicating sim state to each other? You sure date and time of day is also down to the second? The cloud shading looks less low-sun colored on the far left.

I suddenly have a sneaking suspicion you won't like the upcoming dark cockpit fix...

Edited March 12, 20251 yr by blingthinger

36 minutes ago, blingthinger said:

So all 3 screens on the right are good? I can see middle 2 are happy. Looks like far right might be fully there as well.

Are they all fully sync'd if the network communication is severed? All booted up to the same scenario and desired view, just not communicating sim state to each other? You sure date and time of day is also down to the second? The cloud shading looks less low-sun colored on the far left.

I suddenly have a sneaking suspicion you won't like the upcoming dark cockpit fix...

There are only three 75" monitors running with two bezels, right bezel looks okay the left bezel is the mismatch. I'm good on my end and that captured view is without reshade. If the dark cockpit fix affects my lighting I'm make new adjustments. I'll be using XP12 at night while using MS2020 during the day about 90% of the time.

Edited March 12, 20251 yr by Mike_CFII_MEL

4 hours ago, Mike_CFII_MEL said:

can't be that difficult! 

Its never difficult for those who dont have to fix it, hate to think on how hard it would be to send thousands of ref points across a network efficiently to get clouds to match, that are moving and continually changing, without causing some massive processing FPS hit.

Gotcha. Not sure why far left doesn't appear to sync if the other 2 are happy. Something still smells off in left field. 

The dynamic exposure will adjust lighting on the fly depending on what it sees in the viewport. I can see you ending up with mismatched brightness/coloration because each render box will come up with its own unique exposure compensation. I can also see this feature being a blocker for releasing the networking fixes. Ideally you'd want that sync'd too and it still hasn't even been released.

Edited March 12, 20251 yr by blingthinger

Are each of the three monitors running on the same type of cpu? I wonder if the random numbers are different because of cpu architecture variation, even when the seed is the same??

14 minutes ago, blingthinger said:

Are each of the three monitors running on the same type of cpu? I wonder if the random numbers are different because of cpu architecture variation, even when the seed is the same??

Two side computer setups are identical I9-10900, with the center being AMD7950X3D. I would think both side views would be skewed, no?

2 hours ago, Mike_CFII_MEL said:

skewed

Not sure what you mean there but I just tested this on my PC: 3 views with 3 separate sims (with the virtual machine tricks others have used in other forums). The weather (and even tugs once or twice, though that might have been luck. Road traffic did not sync) were sync'd perfectly on the 2 externals. Real weather, that is. Manual weather only showed the base cloud layer as you mentioned earlier. The master eventually desyncs a bit even if the starting point lines up perfectly. I let it run out for a few min to watch the cloud morphing and both externals tracked perfectly with each other. Including tarmac puddles, rain, cloud morphing, etc. 

Takes at least 2 loads of the situation. In other words load into an airport and wait for the 2 externals to finish and then move to another stand at the same airport to avoid making everyone reload scenery and take advantage of the OS having saved filesystem buffers in ram for assets that might get reloaded. Second/third time around resets fast enough that everyone is pretty much in step with each other. Lightning wasn't showing up in PDX just now so I didn't see that at work. Certainly wouldn't line with master, but those externals just might be ok. I repeat: even the puddle simulator was lock step.

And even without the upcoming dynamic exposure, I saw the exposure/coloration quirk across the sims that I mentioned previously (not my normal setup...was just experimenting here). I guess that's why you've got reshade going.

Edited March 13, 20251 yr by blingthinger

19 hours ago, Mike_CFII_MEL said:

Hi,

X-Plane is a professional flight simulator as touted by its owner Austin (it even has FAA approval for real world utilization) whereas the other base platforms are just games, so this is no hobby. As far as youtube I don't make a penny, not signed up for it nor have any intention of ever doing so, although that has zero to do with empty promises over the years. 

Nonsense. It's an entertainment product unless you pay for a professional license and even then the "FAA approval" requires specific hardware - and even THEN, a graphical bug with jetways is not going to affect the approval.

10 minutes ago, FPVSteve said:

Nonsense. It's an entertainment product

Blah blah blah blah.

It's hilarious that you folks who need to make this distinction always fail to also acknowledge that the code base is identical. The only differences between the 'approved' and 'not approved' versions are the min FPS requirements and some visual display capabilities. 

 

17 minutes ago, FPVSteve said:

a graphical bug with jetways is not going to affect the approval.

This much is correct.

1 hour ago, blingthinger said:

Blah blah blah blah.

It's hilarious that you folks who need to make this distinction always fail to also acknowledge that the code base is identical. The only differences between the 'approved' and 'not approved' versions are the min FPS requirements and some visual display capabilities. 

 

This much is correct.

Wouldn't be a problem if it were just the jetways, but it's far worse than that! 

Edited March 13, 20251 yr by Mike_CFII_MEL

Will you have to reconfigure your system to make all 3 primary displays externals? The weather and lighting desync would be resolved. Sounded like that's most of the problem. Leaving the jetways standing alone in pain.

1 hour ago, FPVSteve said:

Nonsense. It's an entertainment product unless you pay for a professional license and even then the "FAA approval" requires specific hardware - and even THEN, a graphical bug with jetways is not going to affect the approval.

Who's talking about just gateways it's networking that's broken, did you even bother to read the title before replying?

Just now, blingthinger said:

Will you have to reconfigure your system to make all 3 primary displays externals? The weather and lighting desync would be resolved. Sounded like that's most of the problem. Leaving the jetways standing alone in pain.

Only issue with that idea is I'd have to add additional demand on the system with an additional view. XP12 is a resource hog as it is.

Yeah that's basically what I was getting at. It doesn't seem like you can easily take full advantage of this trick. You've got the total number of systems to do it but I imagine it would conflict with the shared 2020/24 setup too.

2 minutes ago, blingthinger said:

Yeah that's basically what I was getting at. It doesn't seem like you can easily take full advantage of this trick. You've got the total number of systems to do it but I imagine it would conflict with the shared 2020/24 setup too.

Yeah I'd have to look into that as well.