March 15, 20251 yr 11 minutes ago, mpo910 said: CPPC dynamic preferred cores is set in my bios to "driver".....in the resource monitor I see the parked cores when switching from msfs to Ressource monitor quickly..... And my powerplan windows is set to balanced. I can't understand what's going on. I'm using this debloater. Would it make a difference? Edited March 15, 20251 yr by LRBS 747 Captain for the last 39 years, and still learning.
March 15, 20251 yr Author 14 minutes ago, LRBS said: I can't understand what's going on. I'm using this debloater. Would it make a difference? I dont think something is wrong. Core parking is active and MSFS is running in the non parked cores as needed at CDD0 The difference will most likely be, I used the A350 From IniBuilds wich is a cpu bad optimized plane especially, when switching to external view (as your screenshot shows IniBuilds less cpu intensive plane in cold and dark) i used a bad optimized a350 powered up. The a350 suffers easily 30% fps in external view compared to cockpit view. I will check TLOD 200, MSFS2024 and Boeing 737 max outside view watching towards OMDB skyline. Regards, Marcus P.
March 15, 20251 yr Author New Test this morning. CoreParking works PBO is active POS 200MHZ SMT ON SVM OFF Curve Optimizer NEG 20 4k Resolution Allways Cold&Dark OMDB IniBuilds Gate F20 (I did check if any default scenery conflicted, but it did not) TLOD200 OLOD200 DLSS Quality All settings on Ultra Raytracing on Traffic at Low Fauna OFF MSFS2024 A350-900 IniBuilds 1.0.4 66-68 FPS Cockpit view 65 FPS External view behind 65 FPS Drone with Dubai Skyline in view at horizon A321 IniBuilds 78 FPS Cockpit 75 FPS External behind 88 FPS Drone @LRBS Asobo 737max 79 FPS Cockpit 79 FPS External 89 FPS Drone with dubai skyline at horizon ------------------------------- MSFS2020 All at Ultra, TLOD 200 OLOD 200 same scenario as above A350-900 1.0.4 74 FPS Cockpit view 63 FPS External view behind 64 FPS Drone with Dubai Skyline in view at horizon A320 SL FENIX 82 FPS Cockpit view 98 FPS External view behind 96 FPS Drone with Dubai Skyline in view at horizon 777-300 PMDG WITH TLOD 75!!!! 108 FPS Cockpit view 104 FPS External view behind 104 FPS Drone with Dubai Skyline in view at horizon Cheers Marcus Edited March 15, 20251 yr by mpo910 Regards, Marcus P.
March 15, 20251 yr 51 minutes ago, mpo910 said: New Test this morning. CoreParking works PBO is active POS 200MHZ SMT ON SVM OFF Curve Optimizer NEG 20 4k Resolution Allways Cold&Dark OMDB IniBuilds Gate F20 (I did check if any default scenery conflicted, but it did not) TLOD200 OLOD200 DLSS Quality All settings on Ultra Raytracing on Traffic at Low Fauna OFF MSFS2024 A350-900 IniBuilds 1.0.4 66-68 FPS Cockpit view 65 FPS External view behind 65 FPS Drone with Dubai Skyline in view at horizon A321 IniBuilds 78 FPS Cockpit 75 FPS External behind 88 FPS Drone @LRBS Asobo 737max 79 FPS Cockpit 79 FPS External 89 FPS Drone with dubai skyline at horizon ------------------------------- MSFS2020 All at Ultra, TLOD 200 OLOD 200 same scenario as above A350-900 1.0.4 74 FPS Cockpit view 63 FPS External view behind 64 FPS Drone with Dubai Skyline in view at horizon A320 SL FENIX 82 FPS Cockpit view 98 FPS External view behind 96 FPS Drone with Dubai Skyline in view at horizon 777-300 PMDG WITH TLOD 75!!!! 108 FPS Cockpit view 104 FPS External view behind 104 FPS Drone with Dubai Skyline in view at horizon Cheers Marcus Great news, we now know who the offender/problem is. 747 Captain for the last 39 years, and still learning.
March 15, 20251 yr 3 hours ago, mpo910 said: New Test this morning Is this with FG on? Anyway, 20 fps higher in drone view with Fenix vs ini, wow. It’s my experience as well, ini is extremely heavy on performance. Also 2024 is very GPU-intensive. We’re currently testing a new version of AutoFPS where several settings can be disabled/reduced - RT shadows, clouds and in trees in particular have a significant effect on performance.Anyone can participate in the tests here. 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5
March 15, 20251 yr Author 1 hour ago, Cpt_Piett said: Is this with FG on? Anyway, 20 fps higher in drone view with Fenix vs ini, wow. It’s my experience as well, ini is extremely heavy on performance. Also 2024 is very GPU-intensive. We’re currently testing a new version of AutoFPS where several settings can be disabled/reduced - RT shadows, clouds and in trees in particular have a significant effect on performance.Anyone can participate in the tests here. All Framegen off. Pure FPS 🙂 Yes A350 is a fps draining identified flying object. Regards, Marcus P.
March 15, 20251 yr 1 minute ago, mpo910 said: All Framegen off. Pure FPS 🙂 I may have to go here because I reluctantly use FG and would be tickled to be able to turn it back off and get to where I was before adding performance-sapping addons like BATC and to a lesser extent Self Loading Cargo which tipped the scales for needing FG. I would pick up this CPU if I could run all my airliners in or out of any airport at a minimum native frame rate of 50, using TAA, BATC + SLC. I am at 3440x1440. Right now I've seen as low as 34FPS native in the worst scenarios in MSFS 2020 but usually closer to 45 in most all airports. Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
March 15, 20251 yr Author 19 minutes ago, Noel said: I may have to go here because I reluctantly use FG and would be tickled to be able to turn it back off and get to where I was before adding performance-sapping addons like BATC and to a lesser extent Self Loading Cargo which tipped the scales for needing FG. I would pick up this CPU if I could run all my airliners in or out of any airport at a minimum native frame rate of 50, using TAA, BATC + SLC. I am at 3440x1440. Right now I've seen as low as 34FPS native in the worst scenarios in MSFS 2020 but usually closer to 45 in most all airports. Understand that completely. I need 45 fps in VR to feel smoothness. Today I tested KSFO Flightbeam with FSLTL 60 injected planes roughly...all taxing wild West wise....and got 45 fps steady in VR with the CPU heavy A350 in MSFS2024. VR off was easy 52 FPS with TOLD OLOD both 200 all setting at ultra....when I activated DynLod with TLOD75 and OLOD 200 I jumped up to 60-62 FPS....turned VR on and got stunning stable 45 while taxiing in night environment. Landing with stable 30 capped in the Varjo...Varjo caps FPS at 45 or jumps down to 30 if 45 can not be achieved....turning Varjo FPS cap off was giving me 38 FPS in VR with 3kVR Resolution.... This CPU is a beast.... The outcome at MSFS2020 is even bigger at the moment....that sim profits the most from this CPU Edited March 15, 20251 yr by mpo910 Regards, Marcus P.
March 15, 20251 yr Author 29 minutes ago, Noel said: BATC I jumped from BATC to say intention premium....and use FSLTL for traffic injection. Say Intention AI is at least 2 times better then BATC. The speech engine is huge! The vectoring is much much better, quicker, clearer and always in time for instructions... Say-Intentions is used for Co Pilot (who can not control the knobs), Cabin Crew and Ground Crew. Extremely responsive and so real that I can do complete conversations with my cabin crew....ordering food or drinks or instruct them to do things and they reply on everything I say in the most natural way that my mind struggles to see the difference between Say-Intentions and real world conversations. It doesn't matter...even talking 30 seconds to them....they reflect or reply all necessary input I gave them....just mind blowing They speak in local native accents world wide! They give replies im their own order of reflecting my input...they make jokes or engage me with things like cabin is ready eor we have emergency on board....all there. You should test it....its miles miles ahead of BATC...and does NOT effect my FPS at all...not even 1 frame! BATC does....as soon as I run that app....without their traffic injection....it drains my FPS minus 5 average... If you love real world interactions..... Say-Intentions is the way to go. Edited March 15, 20251 yr by mpo910 Regards, Marcus P.
March 15, 20251 yr 1 hour ago, mpo910 said: You should test it....its miles miles ahead of BATC...and does NOT effect my FPS at all...not even 1 frame! Thanks Marcus I will, but is there an option as there is in BATC and FSHud to have copilot handle interactions? I won't use a mic so that is a basic need for me. I'm less than enthralled with BATC's actual ATC instructions especially in mountainous regions and in that regard prefer FSHud, but FSHud's voices leave way too much to be desired. I have had BATC route its own traffic into me on taxiways failing to tell me to stop or the other plane to stop so most of the time I just use FSLTL's injector and BATC for ATC only w/o its traffic and performance is significantly better. Some think that's preposterous, but in reality I've had less conflicts with that than letting BATC manage its own traffic go figure and a better overall experience with more AI traffic and less performance hit. 9900X3D might be the ticket and fortunately my mobo appears to support it so something to consider for sure. Right now in lightweight planes in 2024, like the Longitude, I turn FG off, TAA on and am back flawless image stability and quality, no 2nd screen judder which is super frequent, and no blurred smeared glass cockpit characters. I can do that at around 50FPS in most all airports. Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
March 15, 20251 yr Author 3 minutes ago, Noel said: BATC and FSHud to have copilot handle interactions Yes....and that works like a charm as well. She\he does this also completely on her own... or when you ask her to ask for taxi or takeoff clearance or departure clearance.....even you may ask her per voice....you handle the coms, radios...she\he will answer as an real person that she or he will. As I said....like a real world interactions.....really great. Also when performing the taxi checklist...she will ask you if she he should ask for taxi clearance...you answer yes....and she her performs the task...and and and... I really loved the real world experience.....even the ATC....quick....natural...and so differentiated like in the real world... Automatic route shortcuts....if you not able to follow...reply and they give you alternatives....or decent instructions.....so natural as I have never seen heard before. It is worth every penny... When you say to your cabin crew close the doors and cross check....they will reply....and tell you they will...after few seconds they come back and tell you the doors are closed...and and and I am really impressed... Regards, Marcus P.
March 15, 20251 yr 3 hours ago, mpo910 said: All Framegen off. Pure FPS 🙂 That's actually incredible. I haven't fine tuned my PBO, but I may just try a blanket -20. I also re-enabled SMT. Yes, core parking works. I must have screwed something up somewhere, because our numbers should be fairly close in a like/like scenario...although I am using a B650 mobo. Not sure if the higher tier boards have any benefit though. This is the A321 scene from your above post FS2024 with the same settings (FG off). 9950x3D This is FS2020 in the same scenario as above: Edited March 15, 20251 yr by V1ROTA7E AMD 9950X3D | 64 GB RAM | RTX 5090 FMR: 747 FO, 757/767 CAPT, 737 Check Airman Current 777 CAPT
March 15, 20251 yr Author 2 hours ago, V1ROTA7E said: That's actually incredible. I haven't fine tuned my PBO, but I may just try a blanket -20. I also re-enabled SMT. Yes, core parking works. I must have screwed something up somewhere, because our numbers should be fairly close in a like/like scenario...although I am using a B650 mobo. Not sure if the higher tier boards have any benefit though. This is the A321 scene from your above post FS2024 with the same settings (FG off). 9950x3D This is FS2020 in the same scenario as above: I have only GSE active at OMDB. Rest turned off. Bios settings Have you turned in BIOS SVM off? It drains my fps turning this security service on. At my 7900x3d it costed me 10 fps roughly.....10% average at lots scenarios. Have you set CPPC (dynamic core) parking set at "driver"? Xmp\expo profile at "enabled"? Important to make your DDR5 RAM (64GB AT MY END) run at high frequency (6000mhz at my PC)? Xmp\expo high bandwidth support "enabled" Set the precision overdrive scalar Ctrl to manual Set precision overdrive scalar to 10 CPU Vcore Loadline calibration to turbo (Aorus named it like that....Asus calls it lever 1.....level 10....etc. take the almost highest setting....not the highest....) Set Precision boost overdrive enhancement to "90 level 5"? Set PBO limits to "motherboard"? Installed the latest chipset drivers? That should be it. Then make sure you have powerplan on balanced in windows Also reinstalling MSFS2024 did help me with my prior fps issues I had. Costs not much time (10 min...and needs remapping the community folder and maybe some settings....but key bindings etc is stored in cloud and will pulled after installment automatically Regards, Marcus P.
March 15, 20251 yr 34 minutes ago, mpo910 said: I have only GSE active at OMDB. Rest turned off. Bios settings Have you turned in BIOS SVM off? It drains my fps turning this security service on. At my 7900x3d it costed me 10 fps roughly.....10% average at lots scenarios. Have you set CPPC (dynamic core) parking set at "driver"? Xmp\expo profile at "enabled"? Important to make your DDR5 RAM (64GB AT MY END) run at high frequency (6000mhz at my PC)? Xmp\expo high bandwidth support "enabled" Set the precision overdrive scalar Ctrl to manual Set precision overdrive scalar to 10 CPU Vcore Loadline calibration to turbo (Aorus named it like that....Asus calls it lever 1.....level 10....etc. take the almost highest setting....not the highest....) Set Precision boost overdrive enhancement to "90 level 5"? Set PBO limits to "motherboard"? Installed the latest chipset drivers? That should be it. Then make sure you have powerplan on balanced in windows Also reinstalling MSFS2024 did help me with my prior fps issues I had. Costs not much time (10 min...and needs remapping the community folder and maybe some settings....but key bindings etc is stored in cloud and will pulled after installment automatically A few things you've suggested I've already done, but I wanted to see with the updated BIOS if any of the "blanket" treatments have increased performance and stability at all, so I did the 90 Level 5 and Loadline to turbo. I've otherwise got custom RAM timings that are tight enough to have an impact, but conservative enough to prevent instability. Funny enough, with the changes (compared to my other settings) I actually lost 5 FPS. This is very interesting...I'm wondering if I should go back to the store and get a 9900x3D to compare. Maybe it's something to do with my system, maybe it's that the chip is actually just not as performative in flight sims. At the end of the day, I do enjoy using Frame Generation, so, even though these numbers are "low," they well outperform the old 30 FPS minimum. It'd be great to see other users with these CPU's and be able to compare performance. Reinstalling the sim is also an option...but...i don't wanna lol. I'm going to load up 2020 and see if there's much difference with everything tuned like this. Edited March 15, 20251 yr by V1ROTA7E AMD 9950X3D | 64 GB RAM | RTX 5090 FMR: 747 FO, 757/767 CAPT, 737 Check Airman Current 777 CAPT
March 15, 20251 yr Author 25 minutes ago, V1ROTA7E said: Funny enough, with the changes (compared to my other settings) I actually lost 5 FPS. which changes did you do which lead to 5fps performance loss? I am curious and if you share, I would test it also Regards, Marcus P.
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