1 hour ago, rjquick said:

I would imagine there is probably a page on the official Boeing and/or Airbus websites where you can down the flight manuals for specific aircraft. Shouldn't be a problem. Maybe I'll check it out later.

It's all electronic now, but yes, that's what I linked.  Also note that you can purchase paper manuals from several different training facilities... Or just enroll in their type program.  They'll take anyone's money, you'll have your study material tonight and you'll be in a sim tomorrow.  It's not "controlled".  👍

1 hour ago, rjquick said:

I would imagine there is probably a page on the official Boeing and/or Airbus websites where you can down the flight manuals for specific aircraft. Shouldn't be a problem. Maybe I'll check it out later.

On Boeing site it's "Myboeingfleet", but only aircraft customer could access.

33 minutes ago, C2615 said:

On Boeing site it's "Myboeingfleet", but only aircraft customer could access.

Yes, I know. I was being sarcastic. Neither Boeing nor Airbus allows just anyone to access their flight manuals. As for Airbus:

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Airbus does not officially allow unrestricted public access to download their A320 Flight Crew Operating Manuals (FCOMs) or other proprietary flight manuals. These documents are considered intellectual property and are typically distributed only to operators, airlines, training organizations, or authorized personnel under strict licensing agreements. The FCOM contains detailed technical and operational information specific to the A320, and Airbus controls its distribution to ensure it is used appropriately, primarily for safety and compliance with aviation regulations.
However, some A320 FCOMs and related manuals (or excerpts) can be found online through third-party websites, such as Scribd, PDFCoffee, or aviation forums like flightsim.to. These are often uploaded without Airbus's explicit permission and may violate copyright or intellectual property laws. For example, documents titled "A318/A319/A320/A321 Flight Crew Operating Manual" or similar have appeared on sites like Scribd and PDFCoffee, but their availability does not indicate Airbus's approval.
For simulation purposes, such as with the Fenix A320, users often rely on these unofficial sources or condensed versions of real-world manuals, like the normal procedures document available at theairlinepilots.com. Additionally, some third-party add-ons, like the MANEX FCOM/FCTM for Microsoft Flight Simulator, provide extracts from official Airbus manuals tailored for sim use, but these are curated and not full FCOMs.
If you’re seeking legitimate access, Airbus provides FCOMs to operators via their “e-TechPub” portal on AirbusWorld, but this is restricted to authorized users like airlines or maintenance organizations. For personal or simulation use, you might need to rely on community resources, training guides like Facundo Conforti’s “Airbus A320 Crew Manual” (based on the Flight Crew Training Manual, not the full FCOM), or publicly available excerpts, while being mindful of copyright restrictions.
Always verify the legality of downloading such documents, as unauthorized distribution could have legal implications.

 

9 hours ago, Stearmandriver said:

Where did I say you wouldn't have to meet requirements?  Anyone can meet those requirements.  Sure, might cost you something.  But you see, it's not anything that restricts anyone from the info who is willing to pay.  It's not classified information... You're willing to pay for it, you can have it. 

Boeing is in the business of making money.  These are civilian, non classified products.  Of course they'll sell the products, and the documentation, to whoever wants to pay, as that site says.  Get a certificate, hold insurance, gimme your check and here's your manual.  You guys are being silly, acting like there's some special knowledge here lol.

On 4/19/2025 at 4:38 PM, Stearmandriver said:

None of this stuff is controlled.

9 hours ago, Stearmandriver said:

They'll take anyone's money, you'll have your study material tonight and you'll be in a sim tomorrow.  It's not "controlled".  👍

You made out as though they were publicly available to everyone to download.   You actually said it multiple times.   You were wrong.  They aren't publicly available, there is a 4 level deep vetting process and you have to have aviation liability insurance but sure, anyone can meet their requirements.

Sorry Andrew, what you said didn't check out with even the most minimal amount of checking... 

Edited April 21, 20251 yr by psolk

15 hours ago, psolk said:

You made out as though they were publicly available to everyone to download.   You actually said it multiple times.   You were wrong.  They aren't publicly available, there is a 4 level deep vetting process and you have to have aviation liability insurance but sure, anyone can meet their requirements.

Sorry Andrew, what you said didn't check out with even the most minimal amount of checking... 

I never said they were just publicly available as in "free"; I said you can buy them.  You can.  Look up a 737 type from Flight Safety.  Anyone can show up with a check, and get trained and typed.  Access to this material isn't controlled by anything except money.  They're just civilian aircraft... No different than a beech Baron or something.  You could buy one tomorrow, if you have the money.  No one will do a background check or anything.

And then, consider the secondary study material market, like the one source I linked.  Anyone will tell you this stuff is much more detailed than what's in the company issued materials, and obviously Boeing isn't controlling anyone's access to it.  

There's just nothing secret here.

Edited April 22, 20251 yr by Stearmandriver