April 13, 20251 yr While there are handful of developers are making all kinds of Airbus planes, there is only PMDG making the Boeing series planes, although iFly makes only one model of 737Max8. Is it particular hard of getting licensed from Boeing or what. There are so many models in Boeing the developers can make and get into a huge MSFS market. Not understand why many of them choose Airbus routes, while we have bunch of paid or freeware versions of all sort of Airbus planes. Competition encourages quality and productivity, that is why we see how slow a Boeing model coming to the market while the Airbus is full of new model continuously.
April 13, 20251 yr I think you should probably view this "problem" from the side of the (potential) developers; think of the thousands of hours a developer has to invest into making a "study level" airliner and then divide those hours into potential sales. It becomes a high risk venture. (We can all speculate on the volume of aircraft FSLabs has sold in MSFS being the latecomer to the party.) A good example is Bluebird Simulations...they have been developing their product (B757 and hopefully a subsequent B767) for literally years. It wouldn't make sense now for PMDG to try to compete with BBS for market share of that particular airframe. I do agree that MSFS has opened a much larger market (primarily through XBox) than P3D ever saw...it is; however, still a limited market.
April 13, 20251 yr Bluebird Simulations is working on tne 757 and 767. IFly released the 737 Max already. i5-12400, RTX 3060 Ti, 32 GB RAM
April 13, 20251 yr Quality Wings did have a decent 787 family in P3D (was supposedly being ported to MSFS) and a lite 757 in FSX. All evidence shows they are no more. CaptainSim did have light-medium fidelity 767 in P3D (which I liked) but their reputation went full nosedive with the loss of talent around the time MSFS was to debut. These and iFly were the only real Boeing contenders with PMDG back in the FSX/P3D era. only iFly remains out of the 3. Let's see how the newcomer BlueBird fares.
April 13, 20251 yr 2 minutes ago, FrankSalo said: Quality Wings did have a decent 787 family in P3D (was supposedly being ported to MSFS) and a lite 757 in FSX. All evidence shows they are no more. CaptainSim did have light-medium fidelity 767 in P3D (which I liked) but their reputation went full nosedive with the loss of talent around the time MSFS was to debut. These and iFly were the only real Boeing contenders with PMDG back in the FSX/P3D era. only iFly remains out of the 3. Let's see how the newcomer BlueBird fares. LVL-D 767 🙂 Potentially the best Boeing ever made Have a Wonderful Day -Paul Solk
April 13, 20251 yr There's even a default 737 MAX in FS 2024 by INIBUILDS if I'm not wrong(?) Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
April 13, 20251 yr 12 minutes ago, jcomm said: There's even a default 737 MAX in FS 2024 by INIBUILDS if I'm not wrong(?) The 737 MAX is done by Asobo. Inibuilds only did the Airbuses. Tom Wright, UK PPL(A) SEP + Night Rating + IMC/IR(R) Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D | 32GB DDR5 6000MHz RAM | 16GB RTX 4080 Super | 2x 2TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2 | Thrustmaster TCA Airbus Sidestick + Quadrant | Logitech G Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals | WinCTRL Airbus FCU + EFIS + MCDU
April 13, 20251 yr 3 hours ago, nicboyGS said: While there are handful of developers are making all kinds of Airbus planes, there is only PMDG making the Boeing series planes, although iFly makes only one model of 737Max8. Is it particular hard of getting licensed from Boeing or what. There are so many models in Boeing the developers can make and get into a huge MSFS market. Not understand why many of them choose Airbus routes, while we have bunch of paid or freeware versions of all sort of Airbus planes. Competition encourages quality and productivity, that is why we see how slow a Boeing model coming to the market while the Airbus is full of new model continuously. Because back in the day, the only serious add-ons were just Boeings, and only from PMDG. There were actually Level-D and CaptainSim, but basically, everyone was dreaming about an Airbus — and that time has finally come. Fortunately. it's just a historical development of the market.
April 13, 20251 yr PSS made a series line of Buses. Maddog for FS9 and FSX also revolutionize the sim. Then along came the Dash 8-Q400. Every now and Then I go back and fire up the Level D 767. Bill McIntyre Asus StrixB650E-F Gamer, AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D, Corsair Titanium DDR5 64GB, Samsung 990 PRO-4TB M.2, (4) 2TB SSD's, Corsair H1150i liquid cooler, RTX 2080TI Founders Edition, (2) LG 34" HD Curved Monitor, Sound Blaster Audigy X, 1Kw PC Power & Cooling Power Supply, Corsair Obsidian Full tower Case. MSFS 2024, WIN11 Pro x64
April 14, 20251 yr 10 hours ago, psolk said: LVL-D 767 🙂 Potentially the best Boeing ever made How do you know that level-d was better and more accurate than PMDG 737 or 747? Artur
April 14, 20251 yr 13 minutes ago, Beardyman said: How do you know that level-d was better and more accurate than PMDG 737 or 747? Well he never used the word Certainly in which means its a given of fact. He said Potentially which means a possibility. There is a difference.
April 14, 20251 yr 3 minutes ago, JBDB-MD80 said: Well he never used the word Certainly in which means its a given of fact. He said Potentially which means a possibility. There is a difference. So, based on what such assumption was made ? Artur
April 14, 20251 yr 7 minutes ago, Beardyman said: So, based on what such assumption was made ? Read your last post, that was the assumption.
April 14, 20251 yr I think it's just coincidence. In the FS9 and FSX days, it was the other way round - a glut of Boeing and a dearth of Airbuses. And as others have mentioned, there are other Boeings out there or being developed. The iFly 737 NG, the FSS 727, the Bluebird 757/767 and the CSS 737 Classic come to mind.
April 14, 20251 yr PMDG approached Boeing for permission to make their aircraft available for Flight simulator, the first being 747 for FS9 and produced the full manual for the aircraft. As for the others who knows if they have permission. Raymond Fry.
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