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CARENADO Releases Piper Cherokee 180F FSX

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I have felt the pain of non virtual gas with a twin at $6.00/gal.On the other hand I met a feisty airport manager in Cape Breton, NS (Port Hawkesbury) on a recent trip who managed to put it into perspective.He without prompt started on what a crock (actually he put it less politely with many four letter words) the gas prices were. He had an old timer come in complaining about how gas was 10 cents a gallon when he started flying etc.The manager asked how much he (the old timer who worked at a local lobster factory-(thought that was cool) was making at the time-turned out to be something like .80 a day.The manager pointed out the % he was paying for gas then vs. salary compared to now at the lobster factory was much better even at these high prices.He then went on a tirade about bottled water-how everyone buys bottled water that cost per gallon makes gas look like a bargain-and most often no better than the tap water out of your sink. Yet no one complains about that!In any case-wishing for lower gas prices myself (burning 28 an hour)- the perspective of this crusty airport manager was refreshing! I really enjoyed his banter!GeofaMy blog:http://geofageofa.spaces.live.com/

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Strange, Carenado didn't show a 2D or a front view 3d cockpit?Hardly the way to sell a bargain imo.

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I am wondering the same thing. My 180 works great in FSX, but the only thing this may provide is interior and exterior shadowing improvements, in addition to the bumb texture layer added. I also have to imagine this was turned into a true FSX model as well, thus frame rates may have been improved a bit.This has been one of my favorites over the years (although I don't fly it as much as I used to), and although it is still very good, I think the interior could be stepped-up a level ala the Mooney if this was going to be 're-released'. There is no indication that happened.This release is a bit of a surprise, but they still may get my cash so I can check out the shadow modeling.

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The very first payware plane I ever bought was the Dreamfleet Archer for FS9. That opened up a whole world of add-ons. I picked up the Carenado Cherokee tonight and it brings back many great memories of those early Archer flights.JimDell XPS 420 Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3.0 ghz3 gb dual channel 800 mhz DDR2 RAM512 mb nvidia 8800GT500 gb SATA drive 7200 rpmSoundblaster X-Fi Xtreme Music22" Acer widescreen LCDWindows Vista Home Premium

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>The very first payware plane I ever bought was the Dreamfleet>Archer for FS9. That opened up a whole world of add-ons. >>I picked up the Carenado Cherokee tonight and it brings back>many great memories of those early Archer flights.>>JimJim, I would appreciate if you could post a picture of the VC. I fly general aircraft in VC with TrackIR. Before buying the ac I would like to know if the VC is up to the FSX standars.Ulf B

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Here are some pics of the VC:http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/show...?t=75595&page=2I would say it's not of the quality of the latest and greatest payware, but for $17.00 it's adequate. JimDell XPS 420 Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 3.0 ghz3 gb dual channel 800 mhz DDR2 RAM512 mb nvidia 8800GT500 gb SATA drive 7200 rpmSoundblaster X-Fi Xtreme Music22" Acer widescreen LCDWindows Vista Home Premium

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Thanks for the link, Jim.Seems you have to be registered on that forum to be able to view the pictures. I'll fix that later.Ulf B

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Agreed!I just bought it. Nice little airplane. And pretty darn accurate. I used to teach in in these little "mattress winged" Cherokees. Well worth the money. Thanks for the heads-up.Best regards,Bill

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Is there anyway to get glideslope capability added for this plane? Just has localizer.

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From the screenshots it looks exactly like the FS9/FSX DX9 version - just a bit brighter!There's an announcement on the front page of AVSIM today, that Carenado are ONLY PRODUCING FSX DX10 addons from now on.That's right - not just FSX (which I happily use), but they are now ONLY producing for DX10 !There are a lot of people out there (I am one) who have FSX running quite well (at last) on XP, and who would not consider moving to Vista for a long time.Thus, it's a shame that Carenado are narrowing their audience to just FSX Vista / DX10 users. Seems strange as a business decision to aim for such a narrow, specific target audience.They have sais they will still sell and 'maintain' their FS2004 products.

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The way I read it, they will make them DX10 compliant, thus, it is not a requirement. But I would imagine will be a requirement to obtain the cockpit shadowing. As I run XP also, I probably would not gain this benefit...right now.That said, it sounds like I might have hope to get the Mentor back for FSX SP2 in the future ;) And it also sounds like all the Cessana's will be transformed into 'true' FSX packages as well. Good news.

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Dykesc-Really, no GS? That seems odd, but easy to fix:Back up the original panel.cfg file first. Then, replace the nav1 gauge in both the Carenado Cherokee main 2D panel AND the VC with a NAV1 gauge from any aircraft that has both LOC and GS, say the NAV1 gauge from the default Mooney, C172, or another payware aircraft. REPLACE ONLY THE GAUGE ENTRY, NOT THE NUMBERS THAT FOLLOW TO THE RIGHT...as these describe exactly where the gauge will appear in the various panel views. Let me know how it works.Regards,http://www.my-buddy-icon.com/Icons/objects/red_3d_plane.gifAlex ChristoffN562ZBaltimore, MD

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Understand the pain..trying to fly to Canada got a taste of what it is going outside the Us.. not good for Ga for sure.With the gas $ , user fees, landing fees, non Ga friendly airports , lack of charts and all kinds of other stuff I was surprised anyone does the Ga thing in Canada. One of the airports I went to had a total of 8 aircraft based there including 3 that drove 3 hours to fly at a reduced price...nice 5000 ft. runway pretty much unused. Sad-hope we can maintain in the US...GeofaMy blog:http://geofageofa.spaces.live.com/

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>The way I read it, they will make them DX10 compliantThat's the way I read it too. All rebuild aircraft will work with DX10. That doesn't mean they will not work in DX9 :)

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Thanks Alex. I'm 1/2 owner and pilot of a Cherokee 180 of the same make and model as the Carenado. Mine has glideslope and your fix will make practice in IMC on FS more like the real thing. By the way, mine has a DME unit as well. Any way to backfit that into the Carenado?

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You probably could, it depends on which instruments you may want 'over another'. Here is a shot of my 180 panel:http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/191345.jpgI took the liberty of placing a Reality RXP 430 into the COM/NAV #1 slot, added the RXP VOR 1 head, and an RXP ADF unit, and a RXP directional gyro with heading knob added. Below the RXP Garmin 430, I placed a Friendly Panel ADF radio, with a friendly Panel Bendix AP below that. On the right panel is a Friendly Panel Transponder. I know this may be more than most would spend on a real 180 ;), but this is FS...and you could replace the GPS with either the default COM/NAV radio, or a Friendly Panel version.Now, if you don't need the AP,you could put a DME radio within that slot, or where the transponder is, and put the transponder in the middle panel. All up to you. Now, in this FS9 ported FSX version, the area I have radios installed are the the limit. In FS9 you could fill the entire middle radio area (below where my AP is installed), and be really unrealistic, like adding dual 430's :D Not sure if what, if any, limitations may be in the new FSX dedicated model.I highly recommend Friendly Panel's for their gauge and radio packs. They just came out with replacement packs for the default FSX props, and it is well worth the money ($11 US +/-) as they make the default aircraft flyable if you require realistic radio functions. Personally I cannot not accept the limitations of the default radios, so this has made the Maule (as example) worth flying for me.

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