August 24, 200817 yr After quite awhile I had to reload FSX. Got the SP1 and SP2. But wasn't there an update for the SDK? If so, I cannot see it in the downloads section of Microsoft's Flight Simulator Home site? Regards,Dick BoleyA PC, an LCD, speakers, CH yoke regards, Dick near Pittsburgh, USA
August 24, 200817 yr Hi Dick, doing a rebuild too - found the direct links over at FSDeveloper site: http://www.fsdeveloper.com/wiki/index.php?...tallation_(FSX)...by a whisker Ulf!Regards, Kendall#1: E8500 @ 3.95 - HyperTX2 Gigabyte P35-DS3L 4GB Ballistix Tracers PC6400 EVGA 8800GT - XG's 174.74 Seagate 250GB 7200.11 CH Yoke/Pedals/Saitek Throttle Dual Monitor: Dell 2405/1905 #2: Dell 8400 3.2 H.T. 3GB PC4200 - X800XT Diamond Xtreme/Logitech X-530's Regards, Kendall 7800X3D/G.B. Aorus 650 Elite V2.0/32GB GSkill Trident 6000-CL30/Nvidia 1080 Ti./Seasonic Focus 1200W PSU.
August 24, 200817 yr Ok downloading...thanksYou really have to wonder about the intellect of the manager that decided that an update to a flight sim product should be buried in the general downloads area. Oh well, if everything works ok it will be FSX11 time until I need to become concerned again.Regards,Dick BoleyA PC, an LCD, speakers, CH yoke regards, Dick near Pittsburgh, USA
August 24, 200817 yr FSInsider.com, http://www.fsinsider.com/Pages/default.aspxhas a Developers Corner, http://www.fsinsider.com/developers/Pages/default.aspxThe 1st paragraph of the Developer Corner states:A New Home for Flight Simulator Developer ResourcesFor those of you who have visited FS Insider Developers ex-Aces Lead PM, FSX SP1 and SP2 ex-Intel LRB native title enablement, ex Intel Gaming and Graphics Samples PM now Graphics and Multicore PM in Visual Computing Software Enabling.
August 24, 200817 yr Perhaps the remark about the "intellect" of the manager should have been "strange motive" instead. Bad day after PC wiped out my Windows folder and thus taking the usual 2 days for restoration. FSX was the last and I was sincerely disappointed in not seeing a link to the SDK update alongside the other FSX download links. Or, a link to its current destination. It just was not logical to me.Regards,Dick BoleyA PC, an LCD, speakers, CH yoke regards, Dick near Pittsburgh, USA
August 25, 200817 yr Took me about a half hour to find them. And I was using Google too !I echo the thoughts of those conserned about the wisdom of burying these things away like this. Especially when certain third party add on's require the files in theses updated SDK's just to run (IE - MyTraffic).http://www.fsinsider.com/downloads/Pages/F...tKitUpdate.aspxhttp://www.fsinsider.com/downloads/Pages/F...-SP2Update.aspxAnd for newcomers, they have to get lucky to just find out that the first SDK is on DVD1. Took me what seemed like forever to find this out while I looked unsuccessfully to find it posted on the web.Bob (Las Cruces, NM)XP-Home, With FS Genesis Terrain MeshLogitech G15 Backlit Game Keyboard and18 Programmable Macro/Keystroke KeysAsus P5N-D MotherboardIntel E8500 @ 3.16GHz (Now)CPUThermaltake MaxOrb Enthusiast CPU FanCorsir XMS2 PC6400/DDR2/800 Dual, 4GigsSATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDDEVGA Geforce 8800 GT/512 (OC'd Version)Dual Flat Panel Monitors
August 25, 200817 yr >The System: Asus P8Z68 Deluxe/Gen3 mobo *** i7 2700K @ 5gHz w/ Corsair H80 cooler NVidia GTX 570 OC *** 8 GB 1600 Corsair Vengeance DRAM *** CoolerMaster HAF X case System overclocked and tuned for FSX by fs-gs.com Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog stick/throttle & CH Products Pro Pedals Various GoFlight panels *** PFC avionics stack
August 25, 200817 yr The comment on the "Microsoft schedule" is one of the core elements that actually creates an undercurrent of angst. They, with resources, are told by accounting that they promised a product with a projected revenue stream on date mm/yyyy. The budgets are created and no one wants to explain to high management that their project did not make their revenue contribution. Therefore, the lower level manager is forced (by the need for food and shelter) to get the product out. I also use a railsim product that was "rushed to market" and is a constant source of annoyance to me. It is good enough to be useful but obviously incomplete. So I apologize to the unknown manager who is told to get things(SDK) structured according to descriptions, and the new ESP structure, from on-high.Regards,Dick BoleyA PC, an LCD, speakers, CH yoke regards, Dick near Pittsburgh, USA
August 25, 200817 yr this statement is full of half-truths and misconceptions.no one outside of the studio knows a thing about our revenue. my blog post about the relative sales performance of FS9 vs FSX should give anyone pause who is making revenue shortfall predictions. so should the studio growth. losing organizations do not grow.getting to the SDK from the main site in 2 clicks fsinsider->developer corner->esp msdn dev centerseems straightforward to me and the claims this is a hardship, or an indication of rushed behavior, or anything else appears to be a stretch. we spent a lot of time telling the FSX developer community about the FSX developer corner resource so that path would be well-known. perhaps it is just that you are not a developer by nature and are instead experimenting and thus did not view the previous messaging as noteworthy and do not recall it. any organization has schedules and projections and must act on them, that is called business as compared to charity. that is nothing noteworthy. all of us here at Aces believe in the product and work hard to make it as excellent as we can, none of us is here just to get "food and shelter". ex-Aces Lead PM, FSX SP1 and SP2 ex-Intel LRB native title enablement, ex Intel Gaming and Graphics Samples PM now Graphics and Multicore PM in Visual Computing Software Enabling.
August 25, 200817 yr It would be nice if an "How to Install SP's and SDK's step by step" was posted on the web site. This would eliminate alot of guessing.Bill M Bill McIntyre Asus StrixB650E-F Gamer, AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D, Corsair Titanium DDR5 64GB, Samsung 990 PRO-4TB M.2, (4) 2TB SSD's, Corsair H1150i liquid cooler, RTX 2080TI Founders Edition, (2) LG 34" HD Curved Monitor, Sound Blaster Audigy X, 1Kw PC Power & Cooling Power Supply, Corsair Obsidian Full tower Case. MSFS 2024, WIN11 Pro x64
August 25, 200817 yr Moderator Comment removed. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
August 25, 200817 yr >>getting to the SDK from the main site in 2 clicks >> fsinsider->developer corner->esp msdn dev center>>seems straightforward to me and the claims this is a hardship,>or an indication of rushed behavior, or anything else appears>to be a stretch.Alternative approach:1. Go to www.microsoft.com2. Enter "fsx sdk" in the live search and press Enter.The first entry in the result list is "Download details: FSX SDK SP1A". Voila ;-)Time spent searching: 5 secs.Alternative approach 2:If you Google FSX SDK the 5:th item in the result list is "Download details: FSX SDK SP1A". It's the top item in the list with an url to www.microsoft.com. If you Google MS FSX SDK the correct url is the first item in the list.Anybody familiar with how to search the net with Google or how to search a site, can't spend more than 5 minutes to find the FSX SDK download. It's impossible unless using a 16Kbps dial up connection ;-)Ulf B
August 25, 200817 yr What guessing?On the FS Insider download site for SP2 you get this information:"IMPORTANT: If you have already installed Flight Simulator X: Acceleration expansion pack, do not install Service Pack 2.IMPORTANT: You must install Service Pack 1 before installing Service Pack 2."No guessing needed. The info is clear. Have a look yourself: http://www.fsinsider.com/downloads/Pages/f...rvicePack2.aspxIf you go to the download site for the SDK update you may read the following info:"InstructionsThe original version of the SDK from Microsoft Flight Simulator X (Deluxe) must be installed prior to installing this SDK SP1 update. Microsoft Flight Simulator X should also be installed prior to utilizing the SDK, as well as the Microsoft .NET 2.0 framework, to ensure all dependent components are installed prior to utilizing the tools contained in this SDK."What more info do you need? What guessing?Ulf BCore2Duo X6800 3.3GHz4GB RAM Corsair XMS2-8500C5BFG 8800GTX, Creative SB X-FiFSX Acc/SP2, Vista 32
August 25, 200817 yr We did that for SP1, herehttp://www.fsinsider.com/tips/Pages/SP1How...uInstallIt.aspxthe rules havent changed.There is a tips and tricks section on install in the SDK overview in the dev center here,http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc...px#HintsandTipsbut the fsdeveloper.com sdk page herehttp://fsdeveloper.com/wiki/index.php?title=SDKhas an article is much more comprehensive, herehttp://fsdeveloper.com/wiki/index.php?titl...ation_%28FSX%29if you are a developer and are not using the fsdeveloper.com site, you are missing one of your best resources. ex-Aces Lead PM, FSX SP1 and SP2 ex-Intel LRB native title enablement, ex Intel Gaming and Graphics Samples PM now Graphics and Multicore PM in Visual Computing Software Enabling.
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