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Your advice: Ultimate Traffic or My Traffic?

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I have UTX but it is dated and MTX 5.2 looks interesting, might have better FPS and the forum is active and updates come often.Opinions?Is it worth changing over?

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I too have UTX and was interested to see that Flight One have just announced they are working on the next version of UTX ... "In regards to the "Next Generation" of Ultimate Traffic, we can only say that an all new edition is well into development. It uses all new code, and we envision it to be a very exciting product. Again, we cannot say much about it now except we hope that it is released later in 2008. It will be an FSX only product"http://ultimatetraffic.flight1.net/forums/...5134&FID=6&PR=3Hopefully this new product will be worth the wait and will come at a discounted rate for us UTX owners!

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I recently switched from UT to MTX 5.2 . Much better on the frame rates especially on an old box like mine. I can double my traffic settings but I keep the GA real low as there is alot of it in MTX.

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I use neither! I use World of AI, The pros for this package is it's freeware, The models perform better than UTX, and maybe slightly less than MTX, but are more detailed and look better than both (IMHO). Most if not all major airlines are included, and many commuter and minor airlines, with more added and updated almost now everyday. Flightplans are real world schedules. The installer sets up the fltsim sections in the aircraft.cfg file automatically with both proper ATC and parking definitions for each airline.The negatives for this package are, each airline mist be downloaded individually, and installed with an installer, although multiple airline packages can be installed at the same time. My advise though is only install a few at a time, because every once in a while an install may fail, because of a corrupt file, (Maybe from a bad download), that you may have to clean out manually before continuing. Flightplans are built to FS2004 standards, so if you intend to continue to use FSX traffic files, you'll need to take the extra step and convert the traffic files to FSX format using traffic toolbox or similar program. Else you will need to disable (rename with different extensions) your FSX traffic files. This will leave you with no GA traffic, although you can install a third party FS2004 GA package on top of WOAI, or the limited WOAI GA packages. There is some Military packages as well but not as many as MTX would have.All in all though I think it's a very good alternative to both UTX and MTX. You can check out some of my videos below to get an idea what you can expect.You can gt WOAI here!www.world-of-ai.com

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I have looked at WOAI in the past and found it to be far too labor intensive.

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The "new" UTX looks to be of interest, possibly, but there is no detail as to what it will include or a firm release date beyond fall 2008.

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>I have looked at WOAI in the past and found it to be far too>labor intensive.You are right more labor is needed to set it up, especially if you hit some bad files. Once setup though, it works really well!

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MyTraffic is excellent. I've used it in its various incarnations since 2002. Easy install. Models are very nice and huge amount of traffic. Also very nice on the framerates.

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I have no direct comparison, but I have used the 2004 version and am now running the X incarnation.It satisfies my needs for realistic traffic and runs well. I had only minor impact on framerates and the support is good.

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So now I see that Traffic X from Just Flight is released and it has some neat options like a follow me truck to drive around the airport and a "spotter" to watch the air traffic. Kinda neat things to have. But the discussion suggest that the FPS penalty is there.http://forum.justflight.com/forum_topics.asp?FID=9

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I prefer UTX. I am glad they are upgrading for FSX.I bought My Traffic 5.1b for FSX. But I was dissapointed that it had traffic for limited number of airports. UT with the exception of military and GA, it had the whole world of commercial aviation covered for the most part. My Traffic, I have found even the ones that was supposed to have traffic, you may not find it if it clashes with another traffic file. i.e. it depeneded on others playing by the rules. Which is a pain in the butt if I have to debug to figure out the offending file. This has been my expierence. Not sure how good an improvement the 5.2 is. I was not going to pay $15 EU for the upgrade knowing the issues I have had.So I am going to wait for the new UTX. I loved UTX for FS9. I am also a little dissapointed that I have to pay for an FSX product purchase upgrade. This is not an FS9 product that I purchased. I bought My Traffic for FSX. And this is an upgrade from 5.1b to 5.2 and I have to pay for it. Ofcourse, if this was a super duper upgrade then, this price may not be a factor. But I am not so sure of its that kind of an upgrade.To be fair, the UTX for FSX has been a vapourware.Manny

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Hey Manny...Yeah there's no info really on ##### is going with UTX so I am basically stuck between MT 5.2 and Traffic X.

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I love 5.2 My Traffic. The new FSX AI models are very, very nice to look at and do not hit my frame rates at all. I did use UT, but they seemed to lose interest in their product. That a UTX is being developed if fine, but lately, anything being recoded from scratch for FSX takes 2-4 years to get out the door. Sorry, I ain't waiting.Randy Jura, KPDX

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Same here, I love MyTraffic 5.2 with FSX. Haven't used Ultimte Traffic lately but do remember it being a frame rate hog when I used it with FS9. The only glitchy thing with MyTraffic is sometimes the AI aircraft disappear when lined up too long at a runway, maybe that's supposed to happen to keep things from piling up but it looks a bit funny when a plane is lined up behind you and then it's gone the next minute.Craig

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>MyTraffic is sometimes the AI aircraft disappear when lined up>too long at a runway, maybe that's supposed to happen to keep>things from piling up but it looks a bit funny when a plane is>lined up behind you and then it's gone the next minute.AFAIK this is a feature of FSX for exactly that reason since I see the same thing with UT2007.Over at the UT forums they are keeping quiet about new versions so I agree that I cannot be arsed to wait for vaporware and so may go for MT 5.2 as well.However, Traffic X is out and has some neat things like a "spotter" and the foloow me vehicle to tour the ramp with...though there is no mention of how these things affect FPS.At least with MT 5.2 there is (a) specific discussion about how it affects FPS and (:( an option to dumb down the grafix to allow for more FPS overhead (ie other add-ons).

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More views on this would be great.I bought the v.5 version of My Traffic X, boxed.I've already paid for one upgrade, to 5.1b.I am now asked to pay again.Every other addon I can think of gives me free upgrades, so my first reaction is well... why?I think I did get a bonus from the first upgrade - nicer models, more FSX compatibility, a traffic board etc.But this time? Still haven't heard anything to persuade me to upgrade. Though frankly (even with the weaker pound) it's not going to ruin me financially; but the principle is there.So - can anyone say there's real extra value in the new upgrade? If so, I'll part with the cash, since I'm a v. happy MTX user. Though I do like the follow-me and spotter functions promised in the competition's kit. But FPS is key for me, and MTX delivers.I suppose it boils down to this: as a very happy MTX user, why upgrade? I need it sold to me a little.

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I dunno about having to pay for 5.1b to 5.2, although you could argue they have to recoup those ongoing development costs. I get good vibes from MT though so I lean towards it, especially since they understand that many of us will run other mods with FSX and need FPS to spare.

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>I suppose it boils down to this: as a very happy MTX user, why>upgrade? I need it sold to me a little.Paul,If your happy with MTX 5.1b and happy with your system performance. Do not upgrade. If on the other hand you want something that was redone to be fully FSX SP2 compliant (which translates into much better FSX performance) then get it. This is not just an incremental update to fix some minor errors. If it were called MyTrafficX 6.0 and you were given the option to upgrade for the same price would you??

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Hi,I had bought MTX 5.1B a few month ago but never installed it until now.I find that my sim loading time has doubled and the FPS in highdetailed airports is very poor. Anybody running this addon on an E6600 processor and 2 gig memory, and a Nvidia 880GT card??? I have been a long time user of UT as well and liked it but that was on fs9. I noticed that there are very few arrivals and it takes a long time for them to spawn. To those who have done so, would I see better performance if I got the 5.2 version??? I am running about 25-50 % traffic, depending on where I am.Helmut

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Maybe the thing to do is to think of them as expansion packs?My memory is a little dim, but as far as I recall 5.1b was a free expansion pack for 5.1, bringing the 747 and 777 FSX models to replace the FS9 versions, lots of new paints covering current and historic operators, and MyTrafficBoard.5.2 is a huge expansion in comparison, bringing 757, 767, DC10, MD11, CRJ, Embraer, ATP, ATR 42/72, DC-8, DC-9, 146 and challenger FSX models der, military and cargo derivatives of these, , better night lights for 737, MD8X and Dash8, plus a delta shaped vintage easter egg flying around the UK.FSX models are the way to go. They have better performance, more animations (I love the thrust reversers) and higher resolution textures than FS9. I never thought I would, but I spend as much time as a "virtual spotter" as I do a "virtual pilot" these days.If you look at the road map, the indications are that the next "expansion pack" will be free, focusing on Eastern bloc aircraft.

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I have the same except Q6600 rather than E6600. Do you overclock? That will help a lot. Which airports in particular do you see poor performance?The extra loading time is FSX working through all the new aircraft definitions it has to work with.

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I never thought I would, but I>spend as much time as a "virtual spotter" as I do a "virtual>pilot" these days.Curious how you do that...?

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>I never thought I would, but I>>spend as much time as a "virtual spotter" as I do a "virtual>>pilot" these days.>>Curious how you do that...?With SuperTrafficBoard of course ;-)I use the board to see which airports in my area have interesting aircraft and airlines represented, then use the View AI and Follow AI commands amongst others to watch and control the action. The board tells me the distance of each AI from the airport, so it's easy to find who will land first.Good locations include EGLL and KJFK, each surrounded by other busy airports so there is never a dull moment.I'll be giving the new spotty a try soon too.RegardsSimon

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>I have the same except Q6600 rather than E6600. Do you>overclock? That will help a lot. Which airports in>particular do you see poor performance?No overclock here, my mobo(p5B) is no good for that.Mainly in dfw, jfk, bos, egll, etc.Anyway I am planing on upgrading my box, just waiting what the new nehalem cpu's have to offer.>The extra loading time is FSX working through all the new>aircraft definitions it has to work with.Thanks

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