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Real Airliner Pilot Tests PMDG's Updated 773

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Love the Canadian livery eh!!!
 

 

Edited by alanw2005

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Title that starts with "real" always make me smile 🙂 Imagine you ask the guy where do you work? He replies: oh I'm an airline pilot! And then yo follow up "but are you real or not"? LOL

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10 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

Title that starts with "real" always make me smile 🙂 Imagine you ask the guy where do you work? He replies: oh I'm an airline pilot! And then yo follow up "but are you real or not"? LOL

Lots of youtubers without credentials call themselves pilots and even Captain. Some youtubers who have a VFR PPL on a Cessna 172 create videos that say "Real pilot flies A380".  So some qualification is needed when it is a real life, airline pilot with jet experience.

Edited by alanw2005

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30 minutes ago, alanw2005 said:

Lots of youtubers without credentials call themselves pilots and even Captain. Some youtubers who have a VFR PPL on a Cessna 172 create videos that say "Real pilot flies A380".  So some qualification is needed when it is a real life, airline pilot with jet experience.

I can assure no one in professional aviation uses word “real”. Most common question you may get as a pilot “if you fly commercially”, meaning you fly for a living. In US pilots would mentioned flying for part 121 or 135 (scheduled or charter) or part 91 which mean someone flies for a private owner. 
I know YouTuber can use whatever title they want , but again word “real” is just silly . As far 773 review a330 driver he is not rated in 777 why not to title “commercial 330 rated pilot takes on 773”?  Again word “real” silly . There are only certified pilots and student pilots . How “real” they are is a big question lol

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Yes but "normal" people are more likely to search for videos by a "real captain" than typing "commercial" or "rated" captain because that's the terminology they're familiar with.

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3 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

a330 driver

The Emi-chan! 💖

14 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

I can assure no one in professional aviation uses word “real”. Most common question you may get as a pilot “if you fly commercially”, meaning you fly for a living. In US pilots would mentioned flying for part 121 or 135 (scheduled or charter) or part 91 which mean someone flies for a private owner. 
I know YouTuber can use whatever title they want , but again word “real” is just silly . As far 773 review a330 driver he is not rated in 777 why not to title “commercial 330 rated pilot takes on 773”?  Again word “real” silly . There are only certified pilots and student pilots . How “real” they are is a big question lol

I thought I was the only one with this view. 😄  Every single video released by some of them has | REAL PILOT | in the description. (Flightdeck2sim).  It's like they're desperate to be taken seriously and worshipped.  And then there are the true professionals.. yes there are some of them.. with a little humility, that would never post such a silly title.  They let their expertise and knowledge show itself in the actual content rather than "I'm a REAL airline pilot, REALLY, HONESTLY!!" in their title.  😄

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25 minutes ago, FPVSteve said:

Yes but "normal" people are more likely to search for videos by a "real captain" than typing "commercial" or "rated" captain because that's the terminology they're familiar with.

So you are normal guy who goes for a discovery flight in the local airport. You meet your CFI who says I'm "real flight instructor" don't worry! LOL Is that how normal people should perceive it ? 🙂

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15 minutes ago, JYW said:

I thought I was the only one with this view. 😄  Every single video released by some of them has | REAL PILOT | in the description. (Flightdeck2sim).  It's like they're desperate to be taken seriously and worshipped.  And then there are the true professionals.. yes there are some of them.. with a little humility, that would never post such a silly title.  They let their expertise and knowledge show itself in the actual content rather than "I'm a REAL airline pilot, REALLY, HONESTLY!!" in their title.  😄

You do realise flightdeck2sim is an actual 737 training captain though, right? He's also one of the better content creators in the hobby for those interested in real world procedures - he's a nice guy who loves to teach his craft and there's no air of superiority at all. Not entirely sure why you've called him out to be honest.

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37 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

I can assure no one in professional aviation uses word “real”. Most common question you may get as a pilot “if you fly commercially”, meaning you fly for a living. In US pilots would mentioned flying for part 121 or 135 (scheduled or charter) or part 91 which mean someone flies for a private owner. 
I know YouTuber can use whatever title they want , but again word “real” is just silly . As far 773 review a330 driver he is not rated in 777 why not to title “commercial 330 rated pilot takes on 773”?  Again word “real” silly . There are only certified pilots and student pilots . How “real” they are is a big question lol

I beg to differ. Lots of airline pilots on youtube call themselves real world pilots. It is the only way to separate themselves from sim pilots.

 

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Welcome to V1-Simulations! I am a real world Pilot currently flying the narrow-body Airbus fleet ( A319 A320 A321 A320NEO)

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2 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

So you are normal guy who goes for a discovery flight in the local airport. You meet your CFI who says I'm "real flight instructor" don't worry! LOL Is that how normal people should perceive it ? 🙂

No but if I'm searching for videos on real world procedures I'm more likely to watch someone with "real pilot" in the description than say, Swiss001 who does crazy things for fun. It's not a difficult concept.

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I would rather learn something about the 737 Max from a real airline pilot instead of Q8 pilot https://www.youtube.com/@Q8Pilot or some guy with 50 hours in a 172 or some guy that flies ultralights.

Edited by alanw2005

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27 minutes ago, FPVSteve said:

You do realise flightdeck2sim is an actual 737 training captain though, right? He's also one of the better content creators in the hobby for those interested in real world procedures - he's a nice guy who loves to teach his craft and there's no air of superiority at all. Not entirely sure why you've called him out to be honest.

This comment is 97% subjective.

I made it perfectly clear why I called him out - because he packs his videos titles with long claims around his 'qualification' to make a flight sim video - which is exactly what was under discussion.

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He's also one of the better content creators [...] for those interested in real world procedures. 

- this is highly subjective.   Firstly, three-quarters of his videos are on aircraft types that he's never been near in the real world.  I have cringed on a number of occasions watching him fly Airbus aircraft.   That is why the "REAL 737 PILOT" banner is so silly - when he doesn't even know what the "Activate approach" LSK in the MCDU does.

I personally don't like his video style at all.  I want him to get on with the flight and he spends an inordinate amount of time engaging in silly small-talk and giggling with those posting on his stream.

To reiterate the main point I was making though - yes, he posts huge "REAL" banners in his videos, even when his 737 type rating is irrelevent to the content. 

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14 minutes ago, alanw2005 said:

I beg to differ. Lots of airline pilots on youtube call themselves real world pilots. It is the only way to separate themselves from sim pilots.

 

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OK does V1 uses "real" in every title of videos he posts?

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My System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSD

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