During daytime they just way too dim despite turning up all lighting knobs I'm aware of. Even the FMC which default to the midpoint on the brightness scale when I dial it fully to max really doesn't change. This, of course, after dialing in outside brightness/contrast/gamma to optimal levels. It's far and away the worst of my 5 planes typically flown and I'm guessing there is probably no solution but thought I'd ask. It's beyond me why devs don't include a maximum of TOO BRIGHT such that one can actually dial something reasonable at less than max on lighting knobs.

During daytime they just way too dim despite turning up all lighting knobs I'm aware of.

Are you adjusting them after setting the master control knob on the overhead?

Are you adjusting them after setting the master control knob on the overhead?

Actually, I turned the master control knob to maximum after I had turned all the gauge control knobs to the max. So what is the proper procedure? Thanks for your reply!

Master control knob + gauge control knobs to the max is the maximum you can do I believe.

Actually, I turned the master control knob to maximum after I had turned all the gauge control knobs to the max. So what is the proper procedure? Thanks for your reply!

I think it's the other way round; master control first?

I think it's the other way round; master control first?

The order doesn't matter I think.

During daytime they just way too dim despite turning up all lighting knobs I'm aware of. Even the FMC which default to the midpoint on the brightness scale when I dial it fully to max really doesn't change. This, of course, after dialing in outside brightness/contrast/gamma to optimal levels. It's far and away the worst of my 5 planes typically flown and I'm guessing there is probably no solution but thought I'd ask. It's beyond me why devs don't include a maximum of TOO BRIGHT such that one can actually dial something reasonable at less than max on lighting knobs.

MASTER BRIGHT

• The main brightness adjustment for a particular display or lighting group.

• On the 777, these are commonly used for:

  • EFIS displays

  • PFD/ND brightness

  • EICAS display brightness

  • Panel flood lighting

  • Backlighting systems

Rotary Knob (Brightness Adjustment)

Turning the knob:

• Clockwise → increases brightness

• Counterclockwise → decreases brightness

This adjusts display intensity for:

• Day operations

• Night operations

• Glare reduction

• Pilot eye adaptation

PUSH ON/OFF

The knob is also a pushbutton.

Pressing it:

• Toggles the associated display/light system:

  • ON = display or lighting active

  • OFF = display or lighting extinguished

Common uses:

• Turning a display unit off if it has failed or is unnecessary

• Reducing distractions

• Power cycling a display 

Edited May 20May 20 by LRBS

Thanks all. Turns out I had the pushbutton ON, so the Master Brightness control was active, but doesn't fix the issue. It's not terrible, but it's just weird to me Devs don't put in a wee bit of headroom such that when you actually max out all controls it's way too bright...then you can dial back to where you want it relative to all other imagery on the screen. Thanks again!

It's not terrible, but it's just weird to me Devs don't put in a wee bit of headroom such that when you actually max out all controls it's way too bright...then you can dial back to where you want it relative to all other imagery on the screen. Thanks again!

Sure, as a user and having seen your issue, I fully agree. Now if I were a dev, with tons of priority, I wouldn't have thought for sure to max out all controls so that it's way too bright and let the user adjust. In addition, "way too bright" is subjective.

@LRBS very nice tutorial, thanks 👍

Sure, as a user and having seen your issue, I fully agree. Now if I were a dev, with tons of priority, I wouldn't have thought for sure to max out all controls so that it's way too bright and let the user adjust. In addition, "way too bright" is subjective.

@LRBS very nice tutorial, thanks 👍

I'm not sure why it is and I've used GFE filters in the past and experimented a lot and almost always it seems like interior views tend to border on too dim in daylight scenarios when I have the exterior view of scenery, atmospherics and clouds just right. I would love a single control that would alter the entire VC illumination in tiny increments. The Aerosoft CRJs have wonderful lighting controls where in broad daylight about 60% of max is ideal. Not so in PMDG777-200LR, and even Fenix A320. IFly MAX8 is decent for sure in this regard.

The Aerosoft CRJs and even Fenix A320. IFly MAX8 is decent for sure in this regard.

Initially, PMDG prioritized product quality and accuracy, and then profit. Today, profit has become the main focus, often at the expense of quality. Unfortunately, this shows in many areas. The good news for us, the consumers, is that new developers are emerging with better products in many respects. 

I have absolutely no idea what this thread is all about. I have no problem with the brightness of any of the gauges or screens in the PMDG 777F during the day, and I have not adjusted any brightness controls, either in the VC or on my monitor

I have absolutely no idea what this thread is all about. I have no problem with the brightness of any of the gauges or screens in the PMDG 777F during the day, and I have not adjusted any brightness controls, either in the VC or on my monitor

Just another chance for the PMDG haters to start bashing.

Just another chance for the PMDG haters to start bashing.

So, in your opinion, if someone reports an issue, gets help resolving it, or expresses an opinion about a product, that automatically makes them a “hater.” By your logic, anyone who points out factual problems or criticizes product quality and accuracy deserves to be dismissed and labeled instead of being heard.

The reality is that even customers on the PMDG forum itself have raised concerns about quality, bugs, and accuracy. Are they “haters” too, simply because they refuse to blindly praise everything? Criticism and accountability are not hatred. Customers have every right to discuss flaws in a product they paid for, especially when those concerns are based on facts and firsthand experience.

This mentality of instantly branding any criticism as “bashing” is exactly what shuts down honest discussion and prevents meaningful feedback. Disturbing attitude.

This mentality of instantly branding any criticism as “bashing” is exactly what shuts down honest discussion and prevents meaningful feedback. Disturbing attitude.

Indeed, what a ridiculous analysis he made.

While we're here you may well know the answer to another question on the 777-200LR: have you found a GSX profile that works? Today at HECA (default) the jetway would not attach and I had a profile but I'm thinking maybe it's not good. Thanks in advance!