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Wow! The pilot must be an ex military fighter jock.

No, the FSForce utility is not connected to FSForce. It is a stand alone utility used to test your joystick function. I use flight in windowed mode so I just launch ForceTest on my secondary monitor along with GMap after loading my flight. You just tick the desired force after setting the desired force level.

In response to Post# 8 about launching FSForce and getting centering with the FFB stick, thanks for the tip. This works but the centering force is way too strong. Instead of FSForce you can run the ForceTest utility available on the FSForce support page. This allows you to adjust the centering forces, also other forces such as vibration. The utility can be downloaded at: www.fs-force.com/support.htm#ForceTest. As in post#8, load your flight situation and then start ForceTest. I set the centering forces to 25 which worked very well for me. Now, if we could just get elevator trim to work.

I gave this a try but it didn't help with the centering issue in Flight. Just for grins I launched FSX and found no FFB at all including centering so the edit does work. I wasn't aware that there is any support in Flight for FFB.

Cool IP asked: Is there such a thing like a standard tutorial for the self made FF yokes? Check out this site-http://buggies.builtforfun.co.uk

I'm still flying with my old Sidewinder FFB2 stick using FSForce. I will shed more than a few tears when it expires. The FFB yoke looks awesome but the price is out of reach for me.

No, unfortunately. I use my Sidewinder in Flight as I cannot stand spring centered joysticks. Without FFB the stick floats with no centering at all. If you tweak the null zones it works OK. I don't see MS adding FFB to Flight as there cannot be that many of them in use. I really love FFB in FSX using the FSForce addon which is superior to the MS FFB implementation.

If your initial response is not is not understood the software is coded to accept your next response regardless of content. You can actually just click your mic button without speaking and the controller will accept this and move on to the next instruction. Earlier versions of the software would keep repeating "say again" repeatedly causing frustration for the human pilot.

In Post #33 Kaboki said "I also liked that drag detail when you open the door in the air, but in real life do you really want to open the doors at 3000FT(but again Im not a pilot so maybe some do, don't know)?" Actually, there might be a reason to at least partially open the doors. In a Wide World of Flying video article, Barry Schiff, a senior airline captain and aviation safety writer, demostrated using the doors to steer a Cessna 172 simulating aircraft controls being jammed. It appeared to be very effective.

Overall I have been enjoying Flight but I have a hard time understanding the facination with flying, if you can call it that, a cockpitless aircraft. I personally will not purchase one and refuse to "fly" the free ones in either Hawaii or Alaska or wherever. Hopefully MS will release a more suitable aircraft for Alaska in the near future.

While some simmers have a problem using a joystick with a control yoke aircraft I sim exclusively with my ancient MS Forcefeedback joystick using FS Force II by Dirks SW. This excellent program in conjunction with a FFB joystick provides more realistic trim function and control forces that vary with airspeed unlike a spring centered joystick or yoke. I too fail to understand why FFB isn't more prominent in flight simulation.

No cockpit, no purchase. Rapidly loosing interest.

That brings back some memories. I was stationed there in the mid seventies in the USAF. The Air Force had a S-band satellite station and two Thor missile pads, one of which was decomissioned due a nuclear tipped missile exploding on launch and the warhead burned on the ground inside the launch area. Must have been very exciting to the personel at the other end of the atoll. It is my understanding that all structures including the runway have been removed and the atoll returned to its' pre-WWII condition. So the lack of detail there might represent this.

I googled the file and found this link. http://download.chip.eu/en/GlovePie-0.30_174835.html. It appears to be the latest version and didn't have any crapware bundled with it. Shame about his site being hacked.

I would like to implement the TrackIR workaround but seem unable to download glovepie from the link listed in the tutorial here on avsim. The link provided was http://glovepie.org/glovepie_download.php. This page refers to a download page but there doesn't seem to be a link to the download page? Thanks was any assistance.