JohnFromCO

I agree. If you currently have a 680 it would be more worthwhile to pick up another 680 and SLI as opposed to getting a 780 or Titan. That is unless you want/need to have a single GPU.

Here are links to several reviews of the new GTX 770. TLDNR version is 5-15% faster than GTX680 (both have same chip, 770 faster mem) and will retail at $400 for ref design (limited North America) and $460 for non-reference. Looks like a good deal if you are currently running a NV 5XX or older GPU (even 580) and need an upgrade. HardOCP: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/05/30/msi_geforce_gtx_770_lightning_video_card_review Overclockers Club: http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/msi_gtx_770/ Benchmark Reviews: http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1219&Itemid=72 Legit: http://www.legitreviews.com/article/2202/1/ Techspot: http://www.techspot.com/review/678-gainward-geforce-gtx-770/ OCA: http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=1004〈=english Hardware Canucks: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/61369-nvidia-geforce-gtx-770-2gb-review.html Enjoy

It was a joke about FSX being horribly optimized. I was highly disappointed with 4K when I played with a SLI Titan setup hooked to a Seiki 50". Tiger is selling them for $1500. 4K input is limited to 30hz until HDMI 2.0 is released. That might be fine for movies or console games but not when you want to play PC FPS or action games at high res. Don't get me wrong the resolution looked beautiful but the 30fps issues drove me nuts. Then again 30fps seems to be the perfect setup for FSX. Good luck with your setup tech!!!

And single digit FPS!

And so it begins..... :Straight Face:

As previously said, SR22's built prior to 2003 did not have an Avidyne Entegra PFD. In 2003 they started line installing them. There are a few 2001 and 2002's with the retrofit kits. The steam gauge SR22's did not have a factory installed backup AI. Way different situation but it helps when the autopilot hdg hold is set prior to lights out and the aircraft enters a gradual descent when the aircraft runs out of fuel. Just look at the distance from Las Vegas to the place of impact. A little far for 1 tank. BTW, aircraft manufacturers, especially those operating under GARA, purposefully create aircraft demonstrating positive stability when operated in the envelope. It makes flying easier/safer for the pilot and helps out during litigation.

Given NV's past pricing (680 launch price) and current pricing with the Titan I don't think NV will price the 780 at the current 680 price. Enough identical rumors have been reported by credible sites (Toms, Anand, etc) that show the 780 will be 20-30% more expensive than the 680. Some reports say it will be significantly higher than that. I would imagine the 770 (rebranded 680) will take the 680's price point and 780 will be as you said between the Titan and 770. After all the 780 is based on the 110 and NV wants to change a premium for it. If the Titan didn't constantly sell out at $1000 per GPU we might have a different conversation but based on enthusiasts now not being shy with money and no real AMD competition until VI I expect the 7XX's to have a high price vs performance just like NV wants. Guess we will know in a little over a week. I am just curious if the BIOS flash from 680 to 770 will work.

757 is a narrow bodied aircraft and are being used to replace FedEx's old 727 fleet. They are dumping their old inefficient narrow bodies for the newer econ narrow bodies. The reason you don't see FedEx buying 737 freighters is the cost. FedEx purchased a majority of their 757's for $10M each (Bloomberg) which is considerably lower than the price of a NG 737 ($30-$80M). Also ULD's can be placed in narrow bodies. We ran them in 727-100QC and -200's without issue. They are the 125" ULD's.

N529PP is a pt 135 BBJ (-700C) out of Dallas that does VIP, DOD, and cargo charter ops. I can't find a listing who did the cargo conversion but I doubt it was Boeing. The operator of 9PP also has a cargo converted GIV (C20G) in all grey paint. There are a few companies besides Boeing that are doing after market full size cargo door conversions to -200, -300, -400, -500, and -700's. I can't imagine it would be that difficult to have a -800 converted. Probably will never see it modeled in FSX though.

Like others have said a brief hit at 90 shouldn't hurt the chip. I try to use the following when it comes to temps and the i5: 0-70 Safe 70-80 Safe. Attempt to lower the temperature 80-90 Approaching unsafe levels 90-100 Dangerously hot IBT is notorious for placing an amazing amount of stress to get the highest temps possible to verify stability and your cooling solution. P95 will give you more of a real world stability. I only use IBT to check my cooling config and use P95 for stability. If I can stay under 80 on max I know my CPU will be happy on anything else. If your chip is stable in P95 at that clock/temp, especially with a $30 HSF, then I wouldn't worry about it. I did notice your VRM is set to 370. VRM Freq overshoot can cause issues like heat, degradation, lockups, and can lower your max clock. I have never seen any major gains in bumping VRM freq past 350. Also the 124 BSOD is not just vcore, especially with Sandy chips. I could be C states, PLL or other settings. I use to get 124's on my OC until tweaking the C States per the guide. Here is a guide and good read on 124: http://www.overclock.net/t/1120291/solving-fixing-bsod-124-on-sandybridge-read-op-first

After reading all the reviews I have to agree with Kyle from HardOCP's comments: "What we are seeing in Titan is a reaction from NVIDIA to what it thought AMD was going to launch and NVIDIA did not want to be seen as having no answer. AMD has gotten a lot better in the last couple of years of holding its cards close to its vest and simply put NVIDIA read its competition wrong and felt as though it was going to be in a position that it had to have a new product; and it did not. So we have a Titan launch and AMD has nothing hardware-wise. Titan is course a "halo product." Not a lot of folks go around throwing down $1000 on a video card, much less $3000 on 3-Way SLI. NVIDIA’s spin on Titan is that Titan was very much built to sell into the boutique system integrator market. GTX Titan is quite simply the world’s fastest and best performing single GPU gaming solution. Titan is tremendously quiet under load and will fit into systems that a GTX 690 will not. Titan’s elegant thermal solution will not exhaust heat into a chassis, like GTX 690. Titan’s new GPU Boost II system will allow system integrators to put together much more complex performance presets that are directly predicated on GPU temperatures and how fans ramp under load. This also allows system integrators to put this monster of a video card into some very small footprint systems that are just not doable with GTX 680 SLI and GTX 690. And while SLI has come a long ways in terms of working right, system integrators would rather have a single GPU solution when it comes to handling support with "non-DIYers" who buy these tremendously expensive boutique desktop computer gaming systems. NVIDIA does not see Titan as part of its GTX 600 series product line. NVIDIA’s branding and message with GTX Titan are consistent. NVIDIA does realize that it is has a product that will only impact a niche of an already small niche when you look at the entire enthusiast video card market. The Titan is just too expensive to be considered by most as an actual option. On the other hand the Titan is "freakin’ awesome" and worthy of excitement. When we get down to looking at a product that likely should have never made it to market, NVIDIA has however given us what is likely one of the best looks at what we should expect from it going forward. Multi-gigabyte wide-bus frame buffers are looking to be the new norm and that is exciting. New NVIDAGPUs will likely inherit the much more granular sets of controls that we are seeing with Titan. And of course more shaders."

I agree on FSX. IMO FSX is a lost cause when it comes to hoping new hardware will bring acceptable FPS. FSX suffers from poorly optimized code and no updates or support to correct it. Maybe P3D is the answer but I don't have much hope for it either. Both are sad facts IMO, especially since I have used FS since the Apple II days.

There are a few people on the Evga boards that will try to tri-SLI the cards and HardOCP hinted they did tests with multiple cards so I guess we will see tomorrow. I think the card would be amazing for those who want near 680 SLI performance in a SFF without the added heat and needed space requirement. The primary reason I dumped by SFF LAN box was due to no future SLI and space / cooling limitations.

On what the Titan,690, or 680? If you are talking about the 680's pricing when the 780 is release then just look at the current 580 pricing. Nv has been pretty stable on how it and vendors price previous models. I don't think you will ever see the Titan lower in price since it is a limited production hard core enthusiast card. Titan is aimed at people who will gladly spend $1000 on each card. Just look at the 690. The pricing hasn't changed from $1000 because it doesn't need to be changed. It is designed for hard core users and not the regular high end enthusiast.

I doubt the 680 price will move due to TItan. They are not competitors and target different markets so Nv wouldn't really benefit by lowering the price on the 680. Nv knows Titan is for extreme users that need a single GPU card and don't care about the $1000 price. I can only see the 680 price change with the 780 series comes out.