JohnG3

First let me say you are hardly a "newbie" with 663 posts! I have been flying FSX with TileProxy (TP) for many years and don't invest much money in anything else, except UTX Europe and UTX USA which give you some nightlights that FSX/TP doesn't provide, plus a lot of other free addons. I will attempt to answer some of your questions as follows: - How does TileProxy compare? Is it worth running instead of the above? I don't know, I don't have those addons. You will only get 2D photorealistic scenery with TP (up to 30cm./pixel) of most anywhere in the world that is cover with good LOD from Virtual Earth/Bing or Google Earth. If they have poor imagery in a particular area, so will TP. Flying 500' to 1000' AGL looks great with TP. Flying lower, scenery is 2D (flat) except for all of the addon scenery for addon 3D airport scenery, stock FSX airports, etc. (see example from Exeter England below). If you are OK with this, then you don't have to buy anymore scenery packages (TP is free). - What is the best LOD to use in TP for optimum balance between quality and performance? The LOD depends on the capability of your PC CPU/RAM/Disks/SSD/Interconnection speed/etc. Since TP doesn't autogen any buildings, the load isn't that great and you can get pretty good FPS with lower end PC's. You just have to try it. Actually, I use 60cm./pixel and get good photorealistic scenery most anyplace in Europe and USA in particular. - On a flight of say 1 hour, how much disk space is used up by downloaded texture files, given above settings? This depends on your LOD settings in TP (proxyuser.ini file) and how much Gb of disk space you have (which is very cheap today). I usually do not delete any TP photorealistic files. This way they do not have to be downloaded again in a future flight in the same area. You can actually fly offline with no internet connection (and no performance hit from the high speed internet tile downloads) if you already have flown extensively over the same terrain before. Also, I do not delete cache files from FSX on exit. This allows me to restart FSX/TP much faster. - Does one typically delete downloaded files after completion of a flight? This question is answered above. - Does TP use different LOD files depending on the altitude of the aircraft? Yes, TP is constantly using different LOD tiles/files depending on altitude and distance. This does require a fairly powerful PC or you get stutters. You can read more about this in Christian Buchner's User Manual which is automatically installed with TP. Here are links to a few more hints for installing and using TP are found here: http://www.edtruthan.com/tileproxy/tutorial/ Ed Truthan's TP Guide - a must read. https://sourceforge.net/projects/tileproxy/files/tileproxy/ TP Nov. 2008 Beta8 download (353Mb). Yes TP is very old and not really supported anymore, but is still great scenery and free!! http://www.flashearth.com/ for checking the LOD you can expect from TP before flying over any area. http://ant.dev.openstreetmap.org/bingimageanalyzer/# Bing imagery analyzer to see actual LOD from 1-20. Exeter England TP screenshot https://www.dropbox.com/s/m7793e0hs0yepha/Exeter_England_Service1_Level18.jpg?dl=0 Hope this helps and good luck, John G.

Hi you two, I guess there are three of us... Unfortunately, you are right. We only have one service - MS Bing/virtualEarth. That is the bad news. The good news is that virtualEarth has a very good level of detail/resolution in many places on earth - especially well populated areas in USA, Canada, Europe and elsewhere. If you want to check out the level of detail for a specific area of the world before an FSX/TP flight, I recommend using Flash Earth with "Bing Maps (Labels)" selected as the Map Source. Here is the link: http://www.flashearth.com/ Yahoo Map services were shut down early in 2015. Here is the shutdown notice: https://developer.yahoo.com/maps/ Unfortunately there is a high monthly price to use one of the required Map Tile API's. Here is the pricing structure: https://developer.here.com/plans/api/consumer-mapping Similarly, the Norwegian map service has also gone to an API purchase data plan and is no longer available free. Here is the Webatlas info translated into English: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.webatlas.no%2Fwordpress_WA%2F&edit-text=&act=url Enjoy VirtualEarth while we still have it, John G.

Hi Pat, I made an attempt at translating your September 28, 2015 revision to your excellent "Tileproxy - Guide en français" into English. I used Google Translate on your web page (http://tileproxy.eklablog.com/) to create a Microsoft Word document with the English translation and links that were in your French version of the guide. Here is the link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/63masmp7hmeron5/Tileproxy_Guide_in_English_Pat_Garret_Rev1.pdf?dl=0 Sorry for the late response to your post. I hope this is a good start towards an English version of your guide... Regards, John G.

I had a chance today to download Pat Garret's Tileproxy Guide translated into English to check the re-formatting and to test all of the links in the Guide. I corrected and updated the English guide (now Rev1). Please download from the following revised, updated link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/63masmp7hmeron5/Tileproxy_Guide_in_English_Pat_Garret_Rev1.pdf?dl=0 Regards, John G.

Pat, I'm "retired" too and live in USA. I do not speak or write French, but I made an attempt at translating your excellent "Tileproxy - Guide en français" into English. Here is the link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7zkkktrskevpdmt/Tileproxy_Guide_in_English_Pat_Garret.pdf?dl=0 I used Google Translate on your web page (http://tileproxy.eklablog.com/) to create a Microsoft Word document with the English translation. I did no editing of the English, so it may be somewhat rough. All I did was re-format some of the text to look similar to your French version. I hope this is useful. I will PM you a link to the Microsoft Word English version of your guide in case you want to do more editing of the English version. Regards, John G.

Slowhand is exactly correct with regard to creating your own airports that are correctly placed. I love to fly gliders and like the French Alps for gliding as well as my home area in New England. I have corrected the location of over 60 airports in places I frequently fly so that they match the real-world satellite TileProxy Service1 imagery. I got tired of landing at airports that were sometimes 1km off their correct location (for example, LFLJ Courcheval, France - see pix below). Here are the links to some of these airports I have put in the AVSIM Library: LFLJ Courcheval stock FSX airport LFLJ Courcheval relocated for TileProxy 15 French Alps Airports - FSX with TileProxy New Hampshire & Vermont - 21 Airports Package 25 Central Massachusetts Airports Good luck and enjoy, John G.

I must first say that I run FSX/TileProxy on a Windows 7 PC - sorry... However, I found this series of 4-5 posts that look very promising to get FSX/TileProxy running on a Win 8 PC. At least some folks say they can get TP working on Win 8... It looks like you need to dig deep to get TP to work, but from your attempts, it looks like you are capable... http://www.avsim.com/topic/387919-tileproxy-and-windows-8/?p=2492545 Good luck, John G.

I have, and others have experienced the same problem. I Googled "Yahoo Maps" and found that they have shut down web mapping services - see links below: https://developer.yahoo.com/maps/ https://dl.dropboxus..._01-10-2015.jpg They suggest "using maps from our partner Nokia"? Does anybody know how to modify the ProxyUser.ini [service3] Yahoo Maps to make this work?? The good news is that Bing (service1) has good coverage most places now - and supposedly you can use Google Maps now?? Sorry, John G.

I put TileProxy R086 in the AVSIM and Simviation libraries. I did this because a number of people wanted it and it was no longer available from the original source (via Facebook from Fonchy (https://www.facebook.com/TileproxySpain) and some other links that no longer worked). Other people have claimed TP_R086 has better performance than the original TP_Beta8. I myself have been unable to actually see any performance improvement over the original TP_Beta8 installation. I cannot find a good test benchmark to prove there is an actual improvement?? I have found a good FSX/TP_Beta8 performance improvement by updating my “fsx.cfg” settings using the link below: http://www.venetubo.com/fsx.html You may already use this tweaking tool. I found that setting the FPS to Unlimited and using an AffinityMask has made major improvements with my FPS rate and smoothness. I have found that running the “Resource Monitor” gives me a good idea about how effectively FSX is using all CPU cores and the overall CPU load. I am asking anyone who has installed TileProxy_R086 update to please comment on their experience with regard to a performance improvement. Thanks, John G.

Please tell us how you corrected the placement of autogen objects. Will it work with FSX and/or FSX:SE? I have corrected the location of many airports in places I frequently fly so that they match the real-world satellite TileProxy imagery. I got tired of landing at airports that were sometimes 1km off their correct location (for example, LFLJ Courcheval, France - see pix below). Here are the links to some of these airports I have put in the AVSIM Library: LFLJ Courcheval stock FSX airport LFLJ Courcheval relocated for TileProxy 15 French Alps Airports - FSX with TileProxy New Hampshire & Vermont - 21 Airports Package 25 Central Massachusetts Airports I have switched to FSX:SE and find at least double the FPS! Nice... John G.

I Googled the MS/Nokia merger and found this quote - " Here, Nokia's mapping entity, is considered a separate business and isn't included as part of the deal, but Microsoft has agreed to a 10-year licensing agreement. (Additionally, Nokia also retains its Solutions and Networks division, its CTO office and a large number of patents.)" Here is the link: http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/25/microsoft-nokia-merger-details/ It may not come to pass, but it looks like someone could dig into the "Here" mapping service and see if they could replace the Yahoo (Service3) - if it is worth it to anybody? Here is the Flash Earth link to both mapping services: http://www.flashearth.com/ A couple of random checks showed me that they both (Bing and Here) have about the same quality/resolution maps...

Yes, it is still necessary to fix the tileproxy.sys unsigned driver enforcement problem. If you see a DOS screen like this: https://dl.dropboxus...gned_driver.jpg Are you running windows 7? If so, then here is the permanent fix for unsigned drivers from a previous post of mine:: 1. Download dseo13b.exe from here: https://dl.dropboxus...922/dseo13b.exe This is the driver signature enforcement overrider program. 2. Run it - Check Enable Test mode and click next and OK 3. Check Sign a System File and click next and insert a filename. You can copy and paste this : C:\Windows\System32\drivers\tileproxy.sys 4. Click OK and OK 5. Check Exit and click next - Now restart PC and restart TileProxy. That should fix the problem.

Service1 (Bing) is the only one that is fully functional world-wide. Service0 (Norway) works well in Norway - as you might expect...:>). The ProxyUser.ini provided in the R086 download should work and is set for Service1. Be sure you fix the path to the cache_folders that match your cache folder locations, typically set to the following: cache_folder=C:\Microsoft Games\cache.service1 Good luck, John G.

TileProxy_R086 is now available from the AVSIM library. Here is the link: http://library.avsim.net/search.php?SearchTerm=tileproxy+R086&CatID=root&Go=Search I will add TileProxy_R086 to the Simviation library today. Enjoy, John G.

I have experienced the same problem. I Googled "Yahoo Maps" and found that they have shut down web mapping services - see links below: https://developer.yahoo.com/maps/ https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/70080922/Yahoo_Map_Service_Shutdown_01-10-2015.jpg They suggest "using maps from our partner Nokia"? Does anybody know how to modify the ProxyUser.ini [service3] Yahoo Maps to make this work??

I have sent a second PM to Fonchy to get his OK to add R086 to the library. There was no response to my first PM. I will upload R086 to the AVSIM and Simviation libraries later this week, giving Fonchy credit for the original R086.

Apparently any original download links for Tileproxy R086 do not work anymore. I will upload a usable Tileproxy R086 package to the AVSIM library and the Simviation library with Fonchy's permission. I have sent him a PM with this request. I have Tileproxy R086 working fine on a Window 7 PC. I have no experience with Windows 8 or P3D, so I cannot tell you how to get TP or TP_R086 working on those platforms - sorry. Regards, John G.

Hi Jet-Norway, You need to override the tileproxy.sys driver signature enforcement in Windows 7. The deseo13b.exe program (Driver Signature Enforcement Overrider) will do this. Here's how: 1. Download dseo13b.exe from here: https://dl.dropboxus...922/dseo13b.exe This is a driver signature enforcement overrider program. 2. Run it -Check "Enable Test Mode" and click Next and OK 3. Check "Sign a System File" and click Next and insert a filename. You can copy and paste this (without the quotes) : "C:\Windows\System32\drivers\tileproxy.sys" into the box and click OK and OK. 4. Check Exit and click Next - Now restart PC and restart TileProxy. That should fix the problem. You will not have to press F8 when restarting W7. You should see a small message in the lower-right of your screen that says "Test Mode Windows 7" if you did this correctly. Also, Tileproxy is tricky to install. It is recommended that you read Ed Truthan's Guide to Tileproxy completely which explains how to install Tileproxy correctly. Here is the link: http://www.edtruthan.com/tileproxy/tutorial/ One critical file needed for Tileproxy is the Proxyuser.ini file. A sample file is given with the Tileproxy installation files, but you need to use a copy of the Proxyuser.ini file that has the setting to allow good performance from Tileproxy. Here is a copy of my Proxyuser.ini file you can use: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0pcu0n5t5ioycs7/ProxyUser_11-21-2014.INI?dl=0 You will need to change the file name to "Proxyuser.ini" and place it in the \Tileproxy folder. In addition, you will need to change the location of the "cache_folder's" to match your cache folder locations (usually on the C: drive). If you are in Norway, you might want to try using the [service Example 0] which is the Norwegian mapping Service. The imagery is better resolution than Service1 or Service3. Here is a sample screenshot from FSX/Tileproxy flying near Andalsnes, Norway if you are interested. https://www.dropbox.com/s/ddifmcciaxq7o0o/Andalsnes_Norway.jpg?dl=0 By the way, I run FSX/Tileproxy on Windows 7 and it runs well with spectacular scenery. It is worth the effort to get it running. Good luck, John G.

Congratulations on the release of TileProxy_R086. This is the first update to TileProxy since Christian Buchner's Nov. 16, 2008 release. I have installed it and it runs great. A few questions and suggestions as follows: 1. Does this release make TileProxy_R086 a full 64-bit application? Was the original open source VC++ code re-compiled and tested with a 64-bit compiler? or how did you do it? 2. Can there be a way to eliminate unsigned driver problem with tileproxy.sys driver? Will it run on Windows 8? 3. I recommend this release be placed in the AVSIM Library and the Simviation Library for greater availability/use. 4. The Readme.txt file seems to be corrupted in the Tileproxy_R086.zip file. I find a file named "èTùvüEɦÆFòvû@.txt" when I unzip it?? I cut-and-pasted a sample Readme.txt file as a draft for your release package. Most of the text was copied from your blog link above. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/70080922/TileProxy_R_sample_Readme.txt 5. I don't believe Google Earth service is an option with TileProxy - at least I have not tried it. Christian Buchner stated (in his Beta8 release User Manual) the following: "Blocked compatibility/interoperability with Google Inc.'s map servers. This change was made after an explicit request of Mike Hearn who works at Google's Earth/Maps engineering department." Is this statement not true?? Please see Christians comments on the subject of Google from some time ago: http://forum.avsim.net/topic/234680-thanks-for-32000-downloads-beta-8-available-now/page-2#entry1495677 6. The multi threads seem to work well. See TileProxy DOS window example using TileProxy_R (note the three <0> - Done! lines) https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/70080922/TileProxy_R_processing_3_threads.jpg 7. Have you had any contact with Christian Buchner? He is no longer an active member of AVSIM. Here is a 2007 YouTube video from Christian showing another interesting FSX development of his: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3hk2H-PhAo

Hi Hans, I still think you have a tileproxy.sys unsigned driver enforcement problem. If you see a DOS screen like this: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/70080922/tileproxy-sys_unsigned_driver.jpg then here is my recommendation: 1. Delete the C:\Windows\System32\drivers\tileproxy.sys file and replace it with the tileproxy.sys file from the ...\FSX\Tileproxy folder. 2. run dsoe1.3b.exe as stated in my previous post. 3. restart Windows 7 and run tileproxy amd FSX as usual. If this is not the problem, then I am not sure what the next step should be. You had tileproxy/FSX running before on Win 7 PC, so it should work now?? John G.

Hi Hans, You need to override the tileproxy.sys driver signature enforcement in Windows 7. The deseo13b.exe program will do this. Here's how: 1. Download dseo13b.exe from here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/70080922/dseo13b.exe This is a driver signature enforcement overrider program. 2. Run it -Check Enable Test mode and click next and OK 3. Check Sign a System File and click next and insert a filename. You can copy and paste this : C:\Windows\System32\drivers\tileproxy.sys 4. Click OK and OK 5. Check Exit and click next - Now restart PC and restart TileProxy. That should fix the problem. Good luck, John G.

If you are trying to use the TP [Acme Globe Service] , The Proxyuser.ini Acme Globe Service is a fictional example and not expected to work. I see that there is some similarity to the ACME Mapper 2.1 in name which has good satellite imagery of Poland. Here is the link: http://mapper.acme.com/ Unfortunately nobody has tried to use this mapping service with TP and you would need an experienced programmer with an understanding of TP to get that working. Any volunteers?? It would be a great addition to the TP mapping capability if anybody could develop it!! Sorry and good luck, John G.

I have no problem with TileProxy, but I am on Win 7 - sorry... I do see in the TileProxy forum that a few people have successfully got TP working. You may want to check out the following posts and ask those folks for more help if necessary: http://forum.avsim.net/topic/387919-tileproxy-and-windows-8/?p=2496406 http://forum.avsim.net/topic/387919-tileproxy-and-windows-8/?p=2959730

Hi Ken, In response to your original problem,and maybe some ongoing problems, I tried FSX/Tileproxy near Fife, Scotland and found that there are indeed missing tiles at the Firth of Forth shore near Dysart (and other places). This is actually normal since there are no tiles with Service1 (Bing) in some of these areas. There is probably nothing wrong with any of your FSX/Tileproxy settings. I find the Flash Earth website to be very helpful to test the condition/resolution of tiles in a certain area. Flash Earth will show you the satellite mapping from both Service1 (Bing) and Service3 (Yahoo). This helps me decide which TileProxy service to use in a particular area of the earth. Here is the Flash Earth link: http://www.flashearth.com/ I attached a couple of photos that show the Service1 missing tile problem in your area. Flash Earth satellite image - Dysart, Scotland: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3cv9bojvdt4kcp1/Dysart_Scotland_Bing_Maps_Tiles_Missing.jpg You need to zoom in with Flash Earth to see the missing tiles. FSX/TileProxy - Service1 - Dysart, Scotland: https://www.dropbox.com/s/oolpcq6zovi9ph9/Fife_Scotland_Service1_Tiles_Missing.jpg Hope this helps, John

You could try to un-check the Addon Scenery in the Scenery Library. It should be at the top of the scenery list. This would eliminate any possible addon scenery conflicts with the Tileproxy "World_" scenery. See if this clears up your problems. If not, you could try a Tileproxy re-install as follows... You should be OK re-installing Tileproxy from the file you already downloaded previously. The file name is "Tileproxy_Beta8_Nov16.zip". If you need to download it again, here is the link: http://sourceforge.net/projects/tileproxy/files/?source=navbar it should work... When you re-install TileProxy, be sure to do a TileProxy un-install and restart your PC before doing a re-install. I would also delete the \Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\Tileproxy folder from FSX and delete the tileproxy.sys file from the C:\Windows\System32\drivers folder before the re-install. Other than the above, I don't have an idea of what your problem might be. Perhaps somebody else will have some additional ideas. John