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Ok thanks for clarifying that Dave, must have me then. It was just a coincidence that on that particular flight I had asked for higher clearance which is something I don’t do all the time especially on short haul. thanks again, regards Mike

Hi Dave, I was wondering if you could clarify something for me. Does P2ATC know what your cruising altitude is? Say for example the flight plan says cruising altitude FL 350 but after reaching this, at some point in the flight you request say FL400, is P2ATC aware of this when calculating your descent? The reason I ask this is because I did a flight the other day but found that I was too high when I was approaching the airport which resulted in a go around. Should I have maybe have asked for descent back to FL350 a few hundred miles out so that my descent would give me the correct approach level as per the flight plan? Or did I just mess up my descent 😛. It would be nice to know for future use especially on long haul. Many thanks, Mike

Thanks for the prompt reply Dave. I've just completed a flight EGKK to LEZL successfully using P2A so I agree with you that it must be the plan. I was thinking also of sourcing the plan elsewhere and trying to import it and if successful with filing the new plan, then exam the 2 together to see if I could spot any differences. Anyway it's good to know that there is a workaround for such cases. It's the first time that it's happened using P2A. I've been thinking more about this, and I seem to recall the odd occasion when I've used P3D for flight planning and crashed P3D with a rogue plan. Thanks for taking the time to research this for me, you offer a superb service, perhaps it may also help someone else if they have the same problem in the future. Regards, Mike

Well it's the next day. I've tried to file the flight plan and now P2A is crashing again. I tried some different gates but still the same happens. Here is a copy of the AppConfig.xml which hopefully you can glean some insight from. https://www.dropbox.com/s/x8gbgue5ycqzd09/AppConfig.xml?dl=0 Thanks Mike

Hi Dave, Well I'm at a loss. I booted up today, loaded P2A, imported my plan. Loaded P3D, same airport EGKK, same gate. Connected P2A to the sim, validated and filed and everything was fine. I tried to think of anything that I did differently from last time. I remember when I wrote to you that I had opened P2A first and was studying the flight plan before I loaded P3D, whereas this time I had the sim already running before I validated and filed, so I tried both ways and the plan filed either way. Last week I had the simulator set up to fly the plan in July 2020 (it's where I'm going on holiday this year and I wanted to fly the route under the same conditions) Today I tried just using today's date just in case time was an issue, but the plan still filed ok either way. So I can only conclude that a fresh reboot was all that was required, maybe it was just one of those quirky things that happens sometimes 😕 Tomorrow I will fly the plan and see what happens. Many thanks for all your help, Mike

Ok thanks Dave, I’ll carry out all your suggestions and report back tomorrow. Wife will shoot me if I do any more experimenting tonight 😜. Seriously though thank you for a fantastic service. Regards,

Dave, I do have calculate safe enroute altitudes checked, but this wasn’t just a delay, the little blue circle whirled around for about 30 seconds then the program just disappeared altogether from the task bar and had to be restarted each time. Mike

Dave, thanks for the speedy response. Not sure what you mean by procedures? I’m away from my PC at the moment but I believe that I have P2A set up to add the sids and stars automatically to my imported plan in the config menu. I’ve never ever used Autoplan is this what should be using? Many thanks Mike

Hi Dave, I've been using your program for about a month now and am very satisfied with it. So far I've had no problems whatsoever. I think personally that it is the best ATC product available on the market right now especially with the voice interaction. Today I tried a flight from EGKK to LGTS but after validating the plan every time I tried to file it, it caused the program to crash. P3D continues running ok, it's just P2A that disappears. I use Simbrief to create the plans and import them into P2A. I've made sure that my Navigraph cycle is the same for Simbrief/P2A/PMDG so there should be no disharmony there. I'm using P2A version 2.6.1.1_64 _R3 by the way. I only realised to today that I had been using R2, so I updated to R3 hoping that there might be a bug fix. I tried an earlier EGKK flight plan and that loaded ok so I'm thinking that it could just be EGKK/LGTS plan that is faulty in some way. I tried revising the plan but this made no difference. I've attached the last 3 log files and a copy of the flight plan. I hoping that you might be able to tell me what's wrong with the plan just in case this happens again at some future point, but also it might help you eliminate this happening in the future if there is any revision that needs to be fixed in P2A. https://www.dropbox.com/s/r11yay0tkb8y7i1/P2A_2018_Trace_File3.log?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/0xh770gvicnpneq/P2A_2018_Trace_File4.log?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/qxp5gqayavg09b9/P2A_2018_Trace_File5.log?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/hawrha70swufm90/EGKKLGTS_FSX_19Feb20.pln?dl=0 Many thanks, Mike

Update to my previous post. After doing more research on this, I found an article about using a second monitor. During the 10 day trial I had been experimenting using Pilot2Atc on my side monitor. This morning that monitor was switched off. You know where this is going right??? I switched on the 2nd monitor and there it was 🥴. Apologies to Dave. I'm now off to eat a large portion of humble pie. Mike

Dave, I downloaded your 10 day trail version and was was very pleased with the product. Today I paid out $60 only to find that now it doesn't work at all!! I get the above error message which tells me that another instance of Pilot2Atc is already running. I can only see one running in Task Manager and the only way to close the program is by ending the task. To start the program I am right clicking on the desk top shortcut and running as administrator, the program loads and then immediately minimizes to the task bar. I can't restore it, maximize it or close it. I have re-booted several times, uninstalled and re-installed it, deleted the Pilot2ATC folder on my C drive and cleaned the registry. I don't know where to go from here and am very disappointed. Regards, Mike

Many thanks to you all for replying. I think that your suggestions of an external box or the Thrustmaster option are good idea. It will give me a lot more control and organisation. Thanks again, Mike

Hi everyone, I've been using Chase Plane for some time now and have been very happy with the product but I was wondering how you all assign your camera positions. At the moment I am using a Saitek yoke and throttle quadrant. I normally assign multiple cockpit views to the 4 cardinal points on the hat switch e.g. captain's view, captain's FMC etc etc to the 270 degree position, overhead views to 0 degree position, and so on. I have up to about 5 or 6 views on each point of the compass which involves a lot of scrolling through each point. I also use Track IR to supplement this, switching on and off as required. For exterior views I have assigned various positions to the 4 keyboard arrow keys, which again involves some scrolling through each view Anyway, I think that there must be a tidier and more efficient way of organising things and would ask that some of you could share you own set up with me or provide me with any suggestions. Many thanks, Mike

Well I'm back! but without any good news. I've completely re-installed P3DV4 and removed any airport addon scenery bgl's so that I'm back to a basic install. I have every AIG OCI model/flight plans installed to date. Using 100% sliders with VOX and P3DV4 here are 3 samples of my AI taken at 9 AM local time each airport:- KMIA - VOX AI traffic on ground - 0 P3D traffic on ground - 9 EGKK - VOX AI traffic on ground - 19 P3D traffic on ground - 16 EGSS - VOX Ai traffic on ground - 0 P3D traffic on ground - 2 So now this seems to have become a wider issue than just VOX, I seem to have problems with numbers in P3D as well. You could argue that the EGKK numbers aren't too bad, but the traffic that I'm getting there doesn't represent the major players at that airport i.e. Easy Jet, TUI, Virgin etc.. EGSS is a major hub for Ryan Air, but none of their aircraft are showing. I am at a loss to even see a pattern to this, you could argue that both AI programs are working, but the coverage is so erratic that it makes the whole experience disappointing at departure/arrival and in the air . I know that when I used FSX Steam I always had plenty of AI using VOX and it was well balanced too. As an experiment, I downloaded VOX version 7.41 and in installed it. It gave me ample quantities of AI but the balance was completely wrong. For example at EGKK I had over 40 Air Baltic AI planes at the expense of the big players that normally use the airport. I cannot help thinking that AI in P3DV4 is just not as good as FSX. I have no proof of this and know that there will be plenty out there that will disagree with me, but sadly, is my experience. For now I'm going back to Ultimate Traffic Live. At least I have each airport filled with a balanced amount of AI, but I shall miss the AIG models and liveries. Mike

Yes you're absolutely right, of course EF is a shader add on of sorts. I'll look into using the beta version, although at the moment I think I'll concentrate on the AI problem. Incidentally, I haven't been using EF or SF during any recent testing. As far as I'm aware EF is only manually operated but my knowledge is limited, unless you know otherwise. Sooo… I think I'll put down the nuclear football for now and start disabling some add ons and see where that leads me. As Arnie would say...….. I'll be back!😛 Thanks again for all your help and patience. Mike