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Hello, First and formost, I love flight simulation and FSX. I consider it my favorite hobby and even 7 years after this old software came out its still enjoyable today as it was in 2006! I also consider this post to be a cry for help in bettering my sim quality! I appreciate everyone who wants to help and gladly apreciate it if you do. If your a negative person with a poor attitude and plan on giving non-productive advice than do me a favor and please quit reading this and continue what you were doing before you stumbled upon this topic! If you can relate or have had similar issues I would love to hear about those as well! Sorry for the length of this thread but i felt it was the best way to explain what ive tried and what hasn't been done for the reader to better assist in a solution or fix. Im having issues with of course; the main problem with FSX- "Frame Rates" Ive had my system now for about a year and I use it strictly for flight sim so i dont know how it would act towards other software but I can't seem to figure out why it just doesn't like FSX! My main hardware is listed below: CPU: i7 2700k @ 4.5 MOBO: ASUS sabertooth z77 RAM: corsair vengeance 16gb @ 1866 GPU: EVGA GTX 680 PSU: corsair AX1200 COOLER: corsair h100 Also I will note that I am running FSX acceleration on Windows 7 64bit basic home premium and all updates installed and I use nvidia inspector. I have an SSD for FSX itself, an SSD for the OS, and a 1tb WD harddrive for other programs and where I keep the scenery files for FSX. I figured with these components i should be getting fairly good frame rates out of FSX...shouldn't i? but i don't! first i will start by saying that what I consider "good" frame rates is 20-30 at all times. Im getting an average of 10-14 FPS in the captain sim 777 with aerosofts chicago with alot of the sliders to the left with GEX, REX, scenery-tech, accu-feel, and ENB series. Ive configured my ENB to where it has no performance hit and ive tested regular "raw" FSX with no addons except the captain sim 777 and i get around around 18-20 with the default chicago and 24 fps with the PMDG 737. Also im using FRAPS to record and fraps loves to bite off half of the fps with 1080p. So if i wanted to record i would be left with usually 7 to 8 fps to work with! Why it does this I don't know, maybe you do?!? So after countless fresh FSX installations, a couple of OS re-installs, a million new cfgs and tweaks(useless), TONS of trial and error, Money wasted on parts, and sleepless nights ive come to think that maybe I simply have bad luck! Ive pondered buying a 3970x or 3960x processor thinking that one of those would help but after researching i think that would be a waste of a perfectly good $1000 seeing that those processor's only pros over the 2600/2700k is that they have a bigger cache, and more cores(which are useless for fsx). Not too mention I would probley cry after handing over $1000 dollars to intel for a processor that would only give me slightly better performance in the sim. That being said, i didn't spend this much money to keep spending money looking for a solution to one sim. I really love simming and all the addons and i can't even imagine not doing it, but the performance issues really take the excitement out of it and I spend 95% of the time testing and tweaking rather than flying! I don't want to give up FSX even after 7 years but even tell this day there is no way to enjoy the game with my beautiful addons! I test the captain sim 777 at aerosoft chicago like i stated earlier in windowed mode with task manager showing performance and even with affinity mask set at 14 its still running in all cores. Also changing anything in my cfg does not do anything to the sim! I can change any number or setting in my cfg and ill always get the same results except if you change the physical things like resolution or frame rate limit which I keep at 30 by the way! Also, in task manager it shows FSX is using 100% of my cpu, i know its a cpu dependent game so i figure thats normal, but i wonder if anyone doesn't get that with huge addons? I have also tried different downloads of the aircraft and addons to ensure there is not a corrupt installation. When it comes to the overclocking side of things ive tried different clocks and tested each one with NO DIFFERENCE to the sim! Overclocking for me did nothing, maybe 1 or 2 fps at the most, and ive managed to get my processor as high as 5.0! my cpu doesnt seem any faster and there is no way to tell because i get the same scores on benchmarks as i would with the base clock! These scores are usually lower than average too so its frustrating. FSX depends alot on processor speed and even today the 2700k/2600k get the best overclock over anything and the best temps for that overclock so when it comes to buying a new processor there really isn't anything significantly better thats worth the money! So what im thinking is...Is it possible since ive seen other users get great performance with this processor and the 2600k could maybe mine be a lemon? The 2600k/2700k are the first processors that pop up when you think FSX so why am i not getting exceptional performance like ive seen in other users? I would like to know would it be worth maybe buying a new 2600k or 2700k to see if the performance is different with another one or could there just be a bottleneck in my system somewhere preventing my processor of using all of its potential? I am desperate now and I can't see putting the sim away even after 7 years but this is a frustrating problem not worth investing tons of money and time in to achieve the same results! You can't tell me ALL of these users who have these nice lifelike youtube videos with no stutters and no lag and maxed out settings really get only 10-15 fps in this aircraft and have FANTASTIC video editing skills!! Is there anyway of knowing if my processor is bogging down? Also just a thought but ive noticed alot of people still use the outdated i7 920 and see great fsx results with that even though the highest speed you can achieve with one of those is 4.2, and thats only with the most special cherry picked 920s in the batch! I wonder what the population's thoughts are on these processors even today? I've also been curious about Haswell. Ive heard mixed reviews about the 4770k. Some people say yay, some nay. Some say performance couldnt get any better and the frame rates are amazing with fsx and others say its nothing special and has crappy overclocking ability and worst than ivy-bridge temperatures when overclocked! Does anyone have an honest opinion on that one? My last thought was maybe i should wait tell tax season and purchase the mysterious 4970x that "should" be out this september! its rumored to have 10% better performance than the 3970 which isnt much but its gotta be better than the performance im getting! If so, there goes 1000 of my hard earned tax dollars all over again.

Hello Avsim! I have spent the last....oh idk 234 straight hours of my life trying to resolve my tearing and spike issue with FSX (DX10). First off...Clearly one can tell that Steves DX10 fix is a really good fix and I would recommend it to anyone because I'm sure this isn't happening to all of you happy users. Lets begin.... One day I started to get tears and spikes while in DX10.....After a un believable amount of troubleshooting and testing I decided the only way to stop my tearing and spike issue in FSX was reinstalling it all over again (yes, with all my addons and hardware button mapping, FSUIPC, cam settings, weather settings etc...). My thought was to install one addon at a time until these badboys came out to play again. Of course I was hoping they wouldn't....but, they did. Take a few minutes to hear my story because this bug may be breading like a mouse for ATI users. First off my hardware and software: (Alienware Aurora R4) i7 3930k 3.2ghz (OC'd at 4.4) HT enabled ATI Radeon 7970 3gb 16gbs of ram Win 7 Home Premium ATI 13.4 driver RadeonPro My FSX.CGF changes (after trying 10000 options): Highmemfix=1 WideViewAspect=True ForceWindowedVsynce=1 TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=40 My addons: UTX GEX REX ASE2012 Genises mesh Magoisoft Shade EZdock Cam Folks, I have done everything. bios settings, bios upgrades/downgrades, GPU driver update/downgrade, OC settings, Cooling settings. Literally every possible option of tweaks in the FSX.cfg (including making a default one). CCC upgrade and downgrade, addon re-installs, CCC settings, RadeonPro settings, AA setings, MSI afterburn options, graphics options in FSX, traffic options, textures from GEX and ASE 2012 and to be honest, SO MUCH MORE that I won't waist your time with my list, just know it's not pretty. I finally said thats enough and I reinstalled EVERY...single...thing. So as I'm "revers engineering" my situation I keep in mind what I'm installing and testing FSX after every single install. Finally I come to Steves DX10 fix. I register it, run the installer and....(drum roll please) Tearing and spikes are back faster then a speeding bullet. So now that I see what's causing these at least I have a little better idea of what I should be doing....But I mean NOTHING......nothing at all has stopped these from showing.....a few minutes into every flight I get these spikes and tears especially on final. Funny thing is there is absolutely NO FPS DECREASE while these are happening...they just flicker and go crazy everywhere on my screen. Also my card isn't even being used a lot....or heating up along with my CPU. My Radeon Pro settings are from this guid right here. I have done a numerous amount of FSX.CFG tweaks including bufferpools 1&0 reject thresholds and these are still here. Isn't this beautiful? I am willing to try just about anything to get these to leave. My sim is better than ever right now if it just wasn't for this bug.....Im getting a steady 30fps with the ATI DX10 guid up-top however, all this great sim experience is washed away with these spikes and tears. Any ideas gentlemen?

FIrst post - I was drawn to this forum when looking at building a new PC, mainly for running FSX. The FSXMark11 and Pictures of our FSX Computers are both interesting and informative in this respect.So, for a while now I have been wanting to upgrade my old 2004 PC (AMD Athlon64 3700+ I think) to a new one, which should be able to provide a much improved experience with FSX.I had my mind set on the i7 2700k, but after reading this post which suggests that the 3930k runs circles around the 2700k, I am confused.So now I basically have 2 options regarding the core:Option1:CPU: i7-2700k (4 cores, socket 1155)Mobo: ASUS Maximus IV Extreme-ZRAM: no idea - please adviseOption2:CPU: i7-3930k (6 cores, socket 2011)Mobo: ASUS Rampage IV Extreme (BF3 ed.)RAM: not a clue - please adviseThe following hardware would apply to both socket types:GPU: eVGA GTX580 DS Superclocked (1.5Gb)HDD 1: OCZ Vertex 3 Max IOPS 120Gb (OS)HDD 2: OCZ Vertex 3 Max IOPS 120Gb (FSX, and other games)PSU: Corsair HX750Case: Fractal Design Define XL USB 3.0 Black PearlCooling (Air): Scythe Mugen 2 rev BOS: Windows 7 Ultimate x64 UKMonitor: For now, keep current 2x Samsung 223BW's for now (22"; 1680x1050).My budget is flexible within reason (which means additional expenses must be justifiable, if only to myself), and the budget is growing as time passes. I'll be blowing my Christmas bonus on this rig. Have the wife's blessing, so everything's aaaalright!With the 2700k, I'm currently at about €1859 (approx. $2425) (total, ex OS, ex Monitors).QUESTIONS:Regarding CPU: The 3930k would mean an cost increase of 50% (+€300/$390) on CPU + Mobo alone - is this worth it? Can the performance difference be quantified? (Does it perform at least 50% better?)Also, is the 2011 socket a 'keeper'? I'd like to be able to upgrade CPU and perhaps mem in one or two years, as prices drop. (Previously had a P4 socket 478, with RIMM memory -- all obsolete and no longer sold within 1 or 2 years... left me up the creek!)Regarding Motherboard: Are these good picks? Is the Z68 chipset better than the P67?Regarding RAM: With the 2700k, the Motherboard is capable of running 2133MHz DDR3, but most people seem to use CL7 1600MHz modules?Regarding GPU: I might add a 2nd of the same type for SLI in the future, when prices drop. Would this in SLI have a large positive effect on FSX? How about on First-Person Shooters?Regarding Monitor: In future, I might upgrade to 2x or 3x 1920x1080.Corey Meeks advises here to take the 2500k instead of the 2600k (the performance increase does not justify the added cost). Would this apply to the 2700k also?The games I play:Note I am not (yet) running any add-ons. Just stock FSX. I will probably install PMDG-B737 in due time though. (And MS Flight ofc).I also enjoy playing FPS (GTA IV finally, BF2, BF3, Call of Duty etc) and MMORPG's from time to time (EVE online mostly), in case this matters.Sorry for the long post. Thanks for reading (or for skipping ahead). Looking forward to your thoughts and ideas!- Martin

G'day fellow simmers, Long story short after nearly two years decided to return to the world of flight sim. Started with overclocking the hell out of my 3930K on water however it will only do 4.4Ghz safely. Used Word Not Allowed's guide to tweak FSX.cfg and other settings. Everything went smooth and I was very happy with performance purchased REX Direct texture and Essentials plus and Majestic Q400 with all these even in heavy thunderstorm nearly maxed out settings I am getting 20-25 fps so naturally I was over the moon I was finally enjoying my flight sim again. HOWEVER i just remembered that I have purchased PMDG 737NGX so fired it up and my enthusiasm dropped by a large margin suddenly I was getting between 7-12 fps max not enjoyable at all. OK I thought the new 777 must be well optimized so I went ahead and purchased the beast. The aircraft is the best I've ever experienced but fps is just the same as the 737 if not worse. This low performance generally only occurs with the 737 in the VC, external is snappy and reasonably quick however the 777 is sluggish even on the outside switching to outside view it takes about 10 seconds to draw the aircraft switching back to VC I get black windshields and it takes approx 5-10 seconds to draw the view. Need to also add I use ORBX scenery and very detailed airports. System: i7 3930K @ 4.4Ghz on water temperatures are well below 80c GPU Powercolor R9 280x Turbo factory overclocked. (had to roll back driver to older version due to the Steve's DX 10 fix spiking issue 12.8 I think) 16GB DDR3 1600mhz RAM True 850 watt PSU Gigabyte X58-UD3 mobo SSD dedicated for FSX my .cfg is below any suggestion is greatly appreciated as I am dying to fly this aircraft. 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Just upgraded from GTX 580 to GTX 780. Both tested with same cfg settings ( using Word Not Allowed's tweaks ) and same in-game graphics settings with every slider maxed out except for water. Running at stock Intel Core i7 3930K @ 3.2 Ghz with Hyperthreading on. ( Affinity Mask 84 ) Scenery - Flytampa Dubai Rebooted 2.0 Aircraft - PMDG 777-200LRF View - Inside 3d cockpit > 0.80 Zoom > Wide view Frame rates- GTX 580 - 20 ( With mouse cursor on the screen ) GTX 780 - 27 ( With mouse cursor on the screen ) Money well spent !

Couple questions before purchasing. I currently have a 3930k OC@ 4.4Ghz I just had the luck to be able to get my hands on a motherboard from work for a great, great price and I couldn't resist. Its just that my 3930k does not fit the socket of this board (ASUS P8Z77-ws). My Problem: The board I currently own is from a stock Alienware rig I picked up a couple years back and I haven't changed it since my purchase. My current board only has one slot for 1 GPU and I'm looking to pick up a 2nd GTX 780 for when P3D v2.x eventually gets SLI support. So what I need help with is, should I put in this ASUS board I got from work and buy a 4770k or keep my existing 3930k and buy a board that has SLI support for my second GFX card that I am eventually getting. Which proc is better OC'd and which is better for simming? What would you do? I am leaving the office in a few hours and I know I will be picking something up lol