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I would like to hear some opinions on this group who say the flight path and movements of some planes on 911 was unrealistic and there are alot of other things that shows these pilots something is wrong in the official explanation of what happened that day?http://pilotsfor911truth.org/index.htmlDo you think these pilots just want to make money or do they have legitimte grounds to sceptisism of the official story?

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I would like to hear some opinions on this group who say the flight path and movements of some planes on 911 was unrealistic and there are alot of other things that shows these pilots something is wrong in the official explanation of what happened that day?http://pilotsfor911truth.org/index.htmlDo you think these pilots just want to make money or do they have legitimte grounds to sceptisism of the official story?
I think these folks are the usual conspiracy theory suspects and don't have a leg to stand on. Every move of those flights has been analyzed from every aspect possible. I know an eyewitness to the pentagon crash whose evidence is as reliable as it gets. Enough already.DJ

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Honestly, anytime I've watched this stuff I

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Their list of pilots and qualifications are pretty impressive. Seems they are growing as well.Member listhttp://pilotsfor911truth.org/coreMore with photos, some on flight deck in uniform.http://patriotsquestion911.com/pilotsThey anayzed the black box data from the NTSB in which the NTSB claims is from AA77. It doesnt support an impact with the pentagon. The NTSB/FBI refuse to comment. They have recorded calls with both.Here are their press releases for a summary...http://pilotsfor911truth.org/pressrelease.htmlhttp://pilotsfor911truth.org/UA93_Press_Release.htmlI also dont think they're in it just for the money as their work is streaming for free on google...Here is an interesting video with full in depth analysis of the black box for AA77...http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=46...08186&hl=enand here is one for UA93...http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1695850318850681282and here is one proving a 757 cannot navigate the Arlington Topography and obstacles due to excessive G Loading to pull out of such a dive for a 757... based on physics and flight data...http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....showtopic=14670Here is a breakdown of many of the common arguments against their work...http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index.php?showtopic=7163Interesting site.

I think these folks are the usual conspiracy theory suspects
I read their misson statement on their homepage and have researched their site. It appears they dont offer theory or place blame at this point in time. But they have found factual holes with the govt story.Why is it that anyone who so much as questions the govt story is labelled a "Conspiracy Theorist"?Its fact the govt story doesnt add up. Not theory.

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I know an eyewitness to the pentagon crash whose evidence is as reliable as it gets. Enough already.
And i can post on a forum that i know Santa Claus. But that doesnt make it true.Why not listen to real witnesses filmed on location in Arlington which include Pentagon Police Officers who place the aircraft on a very different path than that required of the physical damage and the govt story....?http://thepentacon.com

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Sorry Guys, One shred of genuine evidence is all it takes

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Sorry Guys, One shred of genuine evidence is all it takes

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Sorry Guys, One shred of genuine evidence is all it takes

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I did do the research...reasonable good production values but full of errors....sorry I'm talking mostly about "Loose Change". I recognized I was being swindled...

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LOLYou call watching "Loose Change" doing research.Enough Said.RJ

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This thread isnt about "Loose Change" and a some kids who made a film on the net. This thread is about Pilots For 9/11 Truth and real professional pilots who place their names, faces and professional reputations on the line, who also have the expertise and verified credentials for such analysis.

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Yeah lets not get into Loose Change and things. I was sceptical of people questioning the official story also after that film, but I have seen this website and there are people who are actually real Professionell Pilots, some of them Army and US Airforce people, and I found that very astounishing. They say the Flight path, altitude, movements was not possible. Having professionell Pilots say that is something special. They are putting there reputation, there Jobs and careers on the line, so they must feel very strongly about it and be assured of what they are telling us. And I dont know what to think of all that.

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Yeah lets not get into Loose Change and things. I was sceptical of people questioning the official story also after that film, but I have seen this website and there are people who are actually real Professionell Pilots, some of them Army and US Airforce people, and I found that very astounishing. They say the Flight path, altitude, movements was not possible. Having professionell Pilots say that is something special. They are putting there reputation, there Jobs and careers on the line, so they must feel very strongly about it and be assured of what they are telling us. And I dont know what to think of all that.
...and it's not just Pilots, the scientific community including physicists, architects, Mathematicians, Kinesiology (As well as a few retired USAF Colonels) also have trouble with the official story!!http://www.physics911.net/

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...and it's not just Pilots, the scientific community including physicists, architects, Mathematicians, Kinesiology (As well as a few retired USAF Colonels) also have trouble with the official story!!http://www.physics911.net/
Sometimes ppl can

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...and it's not just Pilots, the scientific community including physicists, architects, Mathematicians, Kinesiology
That's the key .. qualifications of people who come up with those theories. There are actually few if any physicists or mathematicians among them. They may have a degree in Physics, Math but it doesn't make them physicists or mathematicians. Show me a group of physicists, engineers with truly impressive credentials - working for top universities in this country, holding at least Ph.D., publishing in major scientific papers in their respective fields, true scientists and not just so called intellectuals then maybe you got something because what is there on those websites is truly laughable including credentials of people who peddle those theories. Show me a single Noble prize winner in Physics (even outside US) lending his name to this cause ....And I am sorry to say pilots are truly the last people with any applicable knowledge here .. it is enough to remind people how poorly most pilots handled simplest questions in physics - for example this famous question about aircraft takeoff from the treadmill. Please remember - pilot's job doesn't require any in-depth knowledge in science or engineering. Many of them have basic college degrees.All this "scientific" community in this case is as good as the "scientific" community behind the claims that the man never landed on the Moon. Truly a sorry bunch of people.

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That's the key .. qualifications of people who come up with those theories. There are actually few if any physicists or mathematicians among them. They may have a degree in Physics, Math but it doesn't make them physicists or mathematicians. Show me a group of physicists, engineers with truly impressive credentials - working for top universities in this country, holding at least Ph.D., publishing in major scientific papers in their respective fields, true scientists and not just so called intellectuals then maybe you got something because what is there on those websites is truly laughable including credentials of people who peddle those theories. Show me a single Noble prize winner in Physics (even outside US) lending his name to this cause ....And I am sorry to say pilots are truly the last people with any applicable knowledge here .. it is enough to remind people how poorly most pilots handled simplest questions in physics - for example this famous question about aircraft takeoff from the treadmill...All this "scientific" community in this case is as good as the "scientific" community behind the claims that the man never landed on the Moon. Truly a sorry bunch of people.
Can you show me one nobel prize winner in Physics that touts the official story? Do you hear any scientific experts outside of government, and the editor of Popular Mechanics touting the official story? I hear it mainly from the politicians and their pundits. Speaking of Nobel prize though David Ray Griffin and the 9/11 Truth Movement was nominated in 2008 for the Nobel Peace Prize for the same thing. Seems like many in the world community outside the US doesn't believe the official story either!

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Can you show me one nobel prize winner in Physics that touts the official story?
I 'tout' the official story and I don't go public, what kind of nonsensic question is that? Most scientists simply bypass this story - they see no need wasting their time on this considering "caliber" of people on the other side. Do you have to react to every barking dog?
twas nominated in 2008 for the Nobel Peace Prize for the same thing.
And what does Nobel Peace Prize have anything to do with this?. And what does mere 'nomination' has anything to do with this? I can also nominate my friend for the Nobel Peace Prize - he is hugging trees all day.

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And I am sorry to say pilots are truly the last people with any applicable knowledge here ..
Pilots dont know how to read an altimeter? Because that is one of the parameters being analyzed with respect to the black box data which shows too high to impact the pentagon as plotted by the NTSB. Do you know how to determine pressure altitude into true altitude? Apparently not.
it is enough to remind people how poorly most pilots handled simplest questions in physics - for example this famous question about aircraft takeoff from the treadmill.
Please let us know what errors in "physics" you find in this technical paper...http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index....showtopic=15930Until then, your strawman arguments and arguments from incredulity mean nothing.
Please remember - pilot's job doesn't require any in-depth knowledge in science or engineering.
What about the numerous pilots listed who have degrees in Aeronatical Engineering? Or the numerous Aircraft Accident Investigators (one who taught Aircraft Accident Investigation at one of the Premier Aviation Universities in the country) or what about USAF Board President of Aircraft Accident Investigation? Are those good enough? Have you even looked at the Pilots For 9/11 Truth roster? Apparently not.
Many of them have basic college degrees.
Again, you are arguing credentials of which its clear you havent even looked at the various rosters. Many are PhD's. You consider a PhD a "basic degree"? Really? You fail to argue which claims exactly they got wrong. Please read the tech paper and review the various presentations of which the tech paper is based... and tell us where they are wrong?
All this "scientific" community in this case is as good as the "scientific" community behind the claims that the man never landed on the Moon..
Nice strawman and attempt to shift the topic with your broad brush. Whats next, Elvis and Bigfoot ridcule? Please..Please list the claims on the website which you feel are wrong. So far, you havent argued any point except your reasons for not even looking at the information presented. Some may call that ignorance.
Truly a sorry bunch of people.
http://patriotsquestion911.com/survivorsSorry bunch of people? Care to re-phrase your insults?

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