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Using FMC in resumed flight

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I had taken off and intercepted the NAV path in the tutorial last night then had to save the situation when at cruise and have since quit FSX, Upon re-loading FSX and the saved situation, everything was perefct other the the FMC was turned off (this may be a part of the work on the FMC in the upcoming SP1, not sure).The FMC started OK, but intitialzed at KABE, I assume the nearest airport that I was closest to. When initialized, the saved flight that came with the install was no longer there, presumably becuase I was not at the origination airport. Is that how it is in real life? I was expecting to have to tell the FMC to fly direct to the next fix, but if I can't retrieve the flightplan after departure then that would render the retrieval of a flight in progress almost unusable (assuming the one is using the FMC).Thanks- and this is one amazing aircraft to fly, thanks PMDG. Goodness knows what the B73NGx is going to look like, I can't even begin to start imagining that :)Bruce.

ASEL, Instrument.

KBJC, Colorado.

I would be surprised if the FMS in this simulation is ever going to be capable of retrieving a saved state. I am not sure how they do it in the big planes, but I suspect it has to do with a saved state file, which is not used by the JS41. I think it is one of the limitations of being an "express" product.

Dan Downs KCRP

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Guys this plane is designed for very short flights, aside from the development time required to implement saving the FMS state (which is significant), we just didn't expect people to be saving short 1 hour long flights to resume them later - it makes sense to have it on a big jet where you're doing half a day long flights, but on a small commuter plane? We really only expected people to save various startup configurations on the ground...

Ryan Maziarz
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Guys this plane is designed for very short flights, aside from the development time required to implement saving the FMS state (which is significant), we just didn't expect people to be saving short 1 hour long flights to resume them later - it makes sense to have it on a big jet where you're doing half a day long flights, but on a small commuter plane? We really only expected people to save various startup configurations on the ground...
Well, at least the save state configurations work! Having to shut down the airplane and ensure it's shut down before every flight would be a nightmare. -------------------------------------On a side note, if we save routes in a .rte format using the FMS, can we re-load that same flight plan if we decide to load a flight mid-way? I think this would be an easy alternative to saving the entire FMS configuration. At least you would have all your stored waypoints ready to go again.

Erik L.

Guys this plane is designed for very short flights, aside from the development time required to implement saving the FMS state (which is significant), we just didn't expect people to be saving short 1 hour long flights to resume them later - it makes sense to have it on a big jet where you're doing half a day long flights, but on a small commuter plane? We really only expected people to save various startup configurations on the ground...
RyanHaving read that, I just have to say that many, myself included, don't always have even that full hour worth of time. What I like to do with the save feature that has been available on most high-end addons (including the 747 and MD-11) is create situations like departures from the holding point or approaches from TOD, so I can easily just load them up and practise them for those rare occasions I have time to mess about in VATSIM.I for one consider a full panel state save capability essential to any addon, no matter how long or short range.Hope you guys at PMDG can consider that for the future :( -kyle
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RyanHaving read that, I just have to say that many, myself included, don't always have even that full hour worth of time. What I like to do with the save feature that has been available on most high-end addons (including the 747 and MD-11) is create situations like departures from the holding point or approaches from TOD, so I can easily just load them up and practise them for those rare occasions I have time to mess about in VATSIM.I for one consider a full panel state save capability essential to any addon, no matter how long or short range.Hope you guys at PMDG can consider that for the future :( -kyle
Exactly! I couldn't have summed it up better, Kyle.Curt

Curt Branch

Exactly! I couldn't have summed it up better, Kyle.
Yes, and to add that I'm not one to make demands and I do understand that this is an express line product, but somehow I've grown so accustomed to having a save feature that I've taken it for granted. As the developers have hinted, it may not be so easy to bolt on as I thought. Hope it will be in the future mainline products though.-Kyle
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Yes, and to add that I'm not one to make demands and I do understand that this is an express line product, but somehow I've grown so accustomed to having a save feature that I've taken it for granted. As the developers have hinted, it may not be so easy to bolt on as I thought. Hope it will be in the future mainline products though.-Kyle
This is not an express product. It it were, there would not be any panel state saving at all. There would be no FMC. There would be no engine failure modelling, cabin pressure modelling, etc.. etc.That being said, while we do recognize the convenience of saving a the fms state, it really was beyond the scope of this project, especially considering that most flights in this airplane will last about an hour....However, you can re-load the flight plan and activate the appropriate leg of your route...

Vin Scimone

Precision Manuals Development Group

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This is not an express product. It it were, there would not be any panel state saving at all. There would be no FMC. There would be no engine failure modelling, cabin pressure modelling, etc.. etc.That being said, while we do recognize the convenience of saving a the fms state, it really was beyond the scope of this project, especially considering that most flights in this airplane will last about an hour....However, you can re-load the flight plan and activate the appropriate leg of your route...
Hi Vin,As the OP, I was not expressing dis-satisfaction with the product, just wanting confirmation of what I thought I was seeing- as someone else said, I sometimes have barely have 20 minutes to "fly". I looked but couldn;t see- if I first save a fligth-plan, how do I re-load it into the FMC when retrieving a saved state file with this a/c?Thanks, Bruce.

ASEL, Instrument.

KBJC, Colorado.

In theory, you should be able to turn the FMS on after resuming flight and reenter or load the flight plan, delete the segments behind you, and fly the segments ahead. However, this might not work if the FMS doesn't initialize in a mid-flight situation. Maybe I don't understand the question, apologies if so.

Dan Downs KCRP

The FMC started OK, but intitialzed at KABE, I assume the nearest airport that I was closest to. When initialized, the saved flight that came with the install was no longer there, presumably becuase I was not at the origination airport. Is that how it is in real life? I was expecting to have to tell the FMC to fly direct to the next fix, but if I can't retrieve the flightplan after departure then that would render the retrieval of a flight in progress almost unusable (assuming the one is using the FMC).
You can reinitialize the FMC after a save. The flight plan list defaults to showing only routes originating at the airport the FMC is initialized to, so you have to enter that airport identifier first, then you should see your saved flight plan. Load it, then from the FPL display select the next waypoint for wherever you are along your flight and hit the D-> button.

Also would like to know if this can be done. Thanks for that info Zenra, will try it later.-Scott

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