I complained over at the OZx forum that I was getting really bad Frames at there freeware airports with my core i7. I use O&O 10 and they said to get rid of it. I thought it was awesome for FSX, I guess not, anyone know why? O and what should I use and how do I "repair" the damage I've done with O&O 10. Thanks.

Hi,I don't know about O&O, I use PerfectDisk10 for defragmentation and it works just fine.

I complained over at the OZx forum that I was getting really bad Frames at there freeware airports with my core i7. I use O&O 10 and they said to get rid of it. I thought it was awesome for FSX, I guess not, anyone know why? O and what should I use and how do I "repair" the damage I've done with O&O 10. Thanks.

HelloThe v10 leaves spaces between files when you use name defrag (which you should)V11 and 12 correct this behaviour and work in the same manner as v8.0.No damage has been done , just not a optimal defrag.Perfect disk cannot do a name defrag so texture placement on the disk will always be out of name order.(marginally slower loading)

I've been using O&O since v8 and have never had any issues. I am currently running v12 (latest) usually beginning of the month every month. I also clean and defrag registry before defragging drives. Registry Mechanic has been my choice for over 6 years now without failure.

O&O Defrag 12 works wonders. By using the Zone Filing option in it, if you have FSX installed on your OS drive you can have O&O 12 put FSX in a "Complete Name" Programs zone and it defrags there a whole lot faster (the other two zones on the drive use a quicker defrag method that works fine). If you have multiple drives and FSX is dedicated to one of them, then you can have that drive do a "Complete Name" all by itself. I've been doing this with my FSX on a dedicated drive and it works great. Saves a lot of time also by not having to "Complete Name" your entire computer.As an aside, are you using FSXGO from Orbx? I ran into a problem with major stutters and low frame rates when I installed FSX and FSXGO on my new i7. The Orbx folks included their "recommeded for FTX Australia" FSX.CFG file "tweaks" in the profiles included with FSXGO. The two "tweak" lines for limiting the number of autogen trees and autogen buildings played havoc with FSX. When I removed them, FSX began running like a charm. And in NickN's Setup Guide for FSX, he recommends NOT using those two tweaks. You have to completely REMOVE them from your FSX.CFG file manually, and REMOVE them from any FSXGO profiles you have. Simply leaving them in the FSXGO profile set to "FSX Default" will NOT prevent the lines from being added to your FSX.CFG file. Delete the lines from your FSXGO profiles, THEN manually delete them from your FSX.CFG file.

Hi,PC Magazine seems to give Perfect Disk a glowing review. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1585337,00.aspCan you show my where you got your information in regards to name order defrag and every other defrag option to be marginally slower than this option.Thank you

HelloThe v10 leaves spaces between files when you use name defrag (which you should)V11 and 12 correct this behaviour and work in the same manner as v8.0.No damage has been done , just not a optimal defrag.Perfect disk cannot do a name defrag so texture placement on the disk will always be out of name order.(marginally slower loading)

Hi,PC Magazine seems to give Perfect Disk a glowing review. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1585337,00.aspCan you show my where you got your information in regards to name order defrag and every other defrag option to be marginally slower than this option.Thank you

Hello MikeName Defrag puts all the simulator texture files in sequential order therefore the H/disk heads do not have to move around as much while reading in texture files, Helps somewhat with blurries ect.I have been using it since V8 of O+O (Ultimate Defrag also does name defrag)Nick N seems to agreehttp://205.252.250.26/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1208959973

ok, should i buy O&O 12? I really dont want to spend money. Do I continue to use O&O10 just with a different setting, because I have problems with OZX that I never had before.

Hello MikeName Defrag puts all the simulator texture files in sequential order therefore the H/disk heads do not have to move around as much while reading in texture files, Helps somewhat with blurries ect.I have been using it since V of O+O (Ultimate Defrag also does name defrag)Nick N seems to agreehttp://205.252.250.26/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1208959973

I have been using Ultimate Defrag since its introduction and its latest version, 2.0.0.55, which you can get a free demo at http://www.disktrix.com/ Works like a charm. It does everything necessary even including changing the size of the master file table reserved space. I notice a real big difference when I need to def rag and after using the Folder/File Name selection of the six choices available. Very configurable. Norm

Perfect Disk essentially does this (and why it's not as good for FS as O&O's Complete/NAME):It places files used to start the system first (O&O does this as well), followed by three zones that are split by file last access date. Recently modified files go toward the front of the disk, rarely modified at the end of the disk, and the ones in between those two go in the middle.This is perfectly fine for a general use computer, but it's not so great for a gaming machine.Games, and in particular FS, load a lot of small sequentially named files - all the BGLs and texture loads happen that way. You're flying along and when you cross into an adjacent BGL cell, it's usually one with a very similar file name to the one you're coming out of. This is why it makes the most sense to place everything squentially so that the disk's read head doesn't have to jump around or be on the slower inner part of the disk (which is where Perfect Disk is going to put the FSX resources since they're never modified).The one thing I wish O&O had was the ability to actually specify the order it places folders in - so it'd do a Complete/NAME on the FSX folder but place it at the very front of the disc on the outside edge ahead of the folder for some other game folder that happened to start with a letter before F.I do use Perfect Disk for it's Offline System File mode, which I think is superior to anything else out there for defragging NTFS metadata and such - I've checked those files using O&O and they still come up fragmented, but PD usually gets them.

Hi,Well, let me purchase O&O and conduct a few tests. Since Perfectdisk 10 is already installed, I'll defrag the system five times in a row and then conduct a few tests. I will defrag five times in a row with O&O as well. 1. Boot time test - Actual time from power buton push to Windows 7 screen2. FSX load time test - Actual time from FSX icon push to main FSX menu3. FSX run time test - Actual time from main menu push button to start the sim, to FSX completely loaded and ready to go.If you can think of any other tests to conduct let me know before I remove PD10 and install O&O.I have four hard drives installed, all 10,000RPM drives.C Drive contains Windows 7 64bit.D Drive contains FSXE Drive contains all my installed FSX addon programsF Drive is my FSX addon storage driveSystem specs are listed below----------------------------------------------1. I7 975 Processor (Overclocked to 4.13GHz)2. ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 Motherboard3. BFG GTX 285 Nvidia Video Board (Overclocked Core Clock: 702MHz / Memory Data Rate: 2664MHz)4. 6 Gig Corsair DDR3 Memory 2000MHz (7-8-7-20)5. 4 - 10,000 RPM SATA Hard Drives6. Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS7. Enermax Galaxy 1000 Watt Power Supply8. 1 - Plextor Blueray-DVD D/L Burner9. 1 - Plextor DVD D/L BurnerNOTE: This is a flight sim only computer system, lets see what the numbers show.Looks like I may be moving to an SSD drive within a month, any feedback on these drives and FSX?.

Hi,Well, let me purchase O&O and conduct a few tests. Since Perfectdisk 10 is already installed, I'll defrag the system five times in a row and then conduct a few tests. I will defrag five times in a row with O&O as well. 1. Boot time test - Actual time from power buton push to Windows 7 screen2. FSX load time test - Actual time from FSX icon push to main FSX menu3. FSX run time test - Actual time from main menu push button to start the sim, to FSX completely loaded and ready to go.If you can think of any other tests to conduct let me know before I remove PD10 and install O&O.I have four hard drives installed, all 10,000RPM drives.C Drive contains Windows 7 64bit.D Drive contains FSXE Drive contains all my installed FSX addon programsF Drive is my FSX addon storage driveSystem specs are listed below----------------------------------------------1. I7 975 Processor (Overclocked to 4.13GHz)2. ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 Motherboard3. BFG GTX 285 Nvidia Video Board (Overclocked Core Clock: 702MHz / Memory Data Rate: 2664MHz)4. 6 Gig Corsair DDR3 Memory 2000mhz (7-8-7-20)5. 4 - 10,000 RPM SATA Hard Drives6. Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS7. Enermax Galaxy 1000 Watt Power Supply8. 1 - Plextor Blueray-DVD D/L Burner9. 1 - Plextor DVD D/L BurnerNOTE: This is a flight sim only computer system, lets see what the numbers show.Looks like I may be moving to an SSD drive within a month, any feedback on these drives and FSX?.

man you have a sick computer, I have the i7 with the GTX 260, do u think the GTX 260 is kinda bottle neck for FSX, would i see a differnece if I got the GTX285?

It isn't just about the load times, it affects the smoothness while you're actually flying too because of the sequential load stuff I mentioned.All of this is moot IMO anyway because SSDs are the future and fragmentation has no meaning with them.

Perfect Disk essentially does this (and why it's not as good for FS as O&O's Complete/NAME):It places files used to start the system first (O&O does this as well), followed by three zones that are split by file last access date. Recently modified files go toward the front of the disk, rarely modified at the end of the disk, and the ones in between those two go in the middle.This is perfectly fine for a general use computer, but it's not so great for a gaming machine.Games, and in particular FS, load a lot of small sequentially named files - all the BGLs and texture loads happen that way. You're flying along and when you cross into an adjacent BGL cell, it's usually one with a very similar file name to the one you're coming out of. This is why it makes the most sense to place everything squentially so that the disk's read head doesn't have to jump around or be on the slower inner part of the disk (which is where Perfect Disk is going to put the FSX resources since they're never modified).The one thing I wish O&O had was the ability to actually specify the order it places folders in - so it'd do a Complete/NAME on the FSX folder but place it at the very front of the disc on the outside edge ahead of the folder for some other game folder that happened to start with a letter before F.I do use Perfect Disk for it's Offline System File mode, which I think is superior to anything else out there for defragging NTFS metadata and such - I've checked those files using O&O and they still come up fragmented, but PD usually gets them.

I've installed FSX on a separate 1 TB WD Black, and named the folder A_FSX.Does it make a difference? I really don't know, LOL!I use O&O 12, and it's efficient and fast IMO.

Hello MikeJust let O+O12 defrag the c:\ drive in Zones as normal, when you do the FSX drive deselect Zones and Defrag this Drive as "name".Here is how C:\ will be laid out with "Zones" selected, this will give you quick boot times as does Perfect Disk.And here we have deselected Zones, instead choosing "name defrag" for the FS driveNotice that all the files are at the start of the disk (fastest area) and in front of the area reserved for the MFT, some files after the MFT area which I added last night will get moved on the next defrag run.All the FS directory is now in name order.It is all about the speed at which FS loads textures and bgl's whilst flying not about boot times.If you are moving to SSD's soon I would not bother buying another defrag program as you will not need one on SSD's, in fact you will massively shorten the drives lifespan.