I've been reading about "memory loss" for a long time now, but to be honest, I never paid too much attention to it. It was just one of those things that happened to "other people" and not a problem that I was having.... until after 12 years of Flight Sims and 6 different Flight Sim computers. But why now ? My latest rig was top of the line a year ago with a 4.01 gHZ CPU and 4 GB of ram and 3 Video cards flying FS2004. It started about 6 weeks ago and the very first time I saw that message, "Your computer is out of available memory" was on a first night flight after installing UT (Canada and Alaska) and all of those thousands of street light started popping up. Now its happening about every flight that goes an hour or longer. The very last thing I did was swap 8" monitor for a 17" monitor for my GPS's and I fly with 3, 26" monitors so now I use 4 monitors, 1-17" and 3' 26". The last programs I installed was Honolulu (PHNL), Ultimate Terrain USA and Canada and Alaska. I fly with Radar Contact 4 and Flight Deck Companion always on and sometimes with a mapping program using Satellite positions for the GPS (cannt remember the name of it right now). I tried to check the "window " that shows how your CPU and memory is being used but it did not indicate "memory" was about to give out. When I get this message (out of available memory) and FS 2004 stops it will give a "error message to send to Microsoft but I do NOT understand anything on the error message. Is there anyplace to get an interpretation of this error message? I know others have had this problem through the years. How did you fix it? Thanks jerrycwo4

Hello,

after installing UT (Canada and Alaska) and all of those thousands of street light started popping up

In the UT configurator (s) ... disable those lights for streets ... blah blah ..Run again a long flight like you did before ... and wait for the memory problem show again

Microsoft but I do NOT understand anything on the error message.

And Microsoft either ... Regards.Gus.

I've been reading about "memory loss" for a long time now, but to be honest, I never paid too much attention to it. It was just one of those things that happened to "other people" and not a problem that I was having.... until after 12 years of Flight Sims and 6 different Flight Sim computers. But why now ?

:( Too funny! I am sorry, this just hit a funny bone with me. I turn 60 in a couple of months. And more and more I get those 60 year old disease moments, darned if I can remember, my memory must be failing me. I am used to this happening to other people and now its happening to me. Yup I do get those memory loss moments however they have nothing to do with your issue.

I've been reading about "memory loss" for a long time now, but to be honest, I never paid too much attention to it. It was just one of those things that happened to "other people" and not a problem that I was having.... until after 12 years of Flight Sims and 6 different Flight Sim computers. But why now ? My latest rig was top of the line a year ago with a 4.01 gHZ CPU and 4 GB of ram and 3 Video cards flying FS2004. It started about 6 weeks ago and the very first time I saw that message, "Your computer is out of available memory" was on a first night flight after installing UT (Canada and Alaska) and all of those thousands of street light started popping up. Now its happening about every flight that goes an hour or longer. The very last thing I did was swap 8" monitor for a 17" monitor for my GPS's and I fly with 3, 26" monitors so now I use 4 monitors, 1-17" and 3' 26". The last programs I installed was Honolulu (PHNL), Ultimate Terrain USA and Canada and Alaska. I fly with Radar Contact 4 and Flight Deck Companion always on and sometimes with a mapping program using Satellite positions for the GPS (cannt remember the name of it right now). I tried to check the "window " that shows how your CPU and memory is being used but it did not indicate "memory" was about to give out. When I get this message (out of available memory) and FS 2004 stops it will give a "error message to send to Microsoft but I do NOT understand anything on the error message. Is there anyplace to get an interpretation of this error message? I know others have had this problem through the years. How did you fix it? Thanks jerrycwo4

I was also having the OOM issue very similar to yours. No matter which aircraft I chose to fly from PHNL to KDTW anywhere from 1 hour to descent into the flight I would receive the OOM notice. After about 10 attempts (always the same results) I started doing my homework. After about a week of research, I found out that UTUSA had a flaw in the coastline related bgls. I found a patch named "UtUsaPatchV130" available from this site " http://www.scenerysolutions.com/ut_downloads_FS9.html " (be sure to install any prior patches in proper order). So far this seems to have cured the problem with the OOM. Oddly enough prior to installing the patch I had no problems with flights such as PANC to KDTW, go figure. Anyway I hope this helps fix your OOM and at least UTUSA will be 'fixed' thereby removing one possibility if you should still get the dreaded Out of Memory message. BTW I agree, switch off the street lights. I did because they were designed for default mesh and with 38m mesh I had streetlights hovering sometimes hundreds of feet above the terrain. Looked like UFOs, . . . . ,invasion in progress! The real issue is that they are a big hit on performance.Again, I hope this helps.Best regards,Mel

Mel, I purchased UT USA and Canada and Alaska about a month ago so it was the latest version of it. I went to your patch "link" but I did not see a patch named, "UtUsaPatchv130". I did see a patch named, " FsgUtPatch.exe". Is that the patch you were referring to? Also be advised I do have FS Genesis installed for the USA, Canada and Alaska but not in Europe. Is this what this patch is all about? Also the other day on a flight from Manchester, England to Paris I also had the memory loss and the flight was not in the USA. Any thoughts? Thanks jerrycwo4

Mel, I purchased UT USA and Canada and Alaska about a month ago so it was the latest version of it. I went to your patch "link" but I did not see a patch named, "UtUsaPatchv130". I did see a patch named, " FsgUtPatch.exe". Is that the patch you were referring to? Also be advised I do have FS Genesis installed for the USA, Canada and Alaska but not in Europe. Is this what this patch is all about? Also the other day on a flight from Manchester, England to Paris I also had the memory loss and the flight was not in the USA. Any thoughts? Thanks jerrycwo4

What version does it say in the task bar when you open up UTUSA?

Mel, I purchased UT USA and Canada and Alaska about a month ago so it was the latest version of it. I went to your patch "link" but I did not see a patch named, "UtUsaPatchv130". I did see a patch named, " FsgUtPatch.exe". Is that the patch you were referring to? Also be advised I do have FS Genesis installed for the USA, Canada and Alaska but not in Europe. Is this what this patch is all about? Also the other day on a flight from Manchester, England to Paris I also had the memory loss and the flight was not in the USA. Any thoughts? Thanks jerrycwo4

" UtUsaPatchv130 " is the name given to the download file acquired from:Upgrade To Version 1.30Download this file to upgrade Ultimate Terrain USA from version 1.21 to version 1.3. Here is a list of things addressed in the patch. You must have your version of the UT USA software patched to Version 1.21 for the patch to succeed. Or, you must have the current release version installed, which is also version 1.21. Sorry for the confusion that caused.However, as Red inquired, your recent purchase may have already provided you with version 1.30. Check to find which version you have and proceed from there if necessary. As for " FsgUtPatch.exe ", that is a patch for using a part of a landclass file from FsGenesis in a 'sandwich' arrangement with UTUSA that modifies United States city landclass rendition, so if you don't have or want the FsGenesis Landclass it is not needed. BTW the FsGenesis Lc file covers all of the US, The patch 'fixes' this so only the city parts are used.Best regards,Mel

Mel, I purchased UT USA and Canada and Alaska about a month ago so it was the latest version of it. I went to your patch "link" but I did not see a patch named, "UtUsaPatchv130". I did see a patch named, " FsgUtPatch.exe". Is that the patch you were referring to? Also be advised I do have FS Genesis installed for the USA, Canada and Alaska but not in Europe. Is this what this patch is all about? Also the other day on a flight from Manchester, England to Paris I also had the memory loss and the flight was not in the USA. Any thoughts? Thanks jerrycwo4

By: Fs Genesis I assume you mean terrain mesh?Are you flying the same aircraft each time or is the OOM happening with all aircraft? Which aircraft? First thought, if it is always with the same aircraft it might be a corrupt texture or gauge causing a memory leak. Second thought. If this occurs with a number of aircraft aircraft, do they have anything in common such as a panel or gauges, . . . again a corrupt gauge. If none of these conditions exist then most likely it would be because of a corrupt texture or bgl file. Last thought. Did the OOM's begin before or after the UTUSA and UT Canada Alaska install? If after, please check that they were installed in the proper order, and layered properly in your scenery cfg setup. If they were not installed in the proper order that can cause problems. ( layer below all MS photo airport scenery as viewed in the FS9 scenery GUI ). I just took a time out and searched for the exact source of correct order of installation but I couldn't come across it; However, UTUSA first Canada / Alaska second. I hope this helps you to start narrowing done the possibilities.Best regards,Mel

I'll give the usual answer to OOM problems; 64 bit, 64 bit, 64 bit. Haven't had a OOM since Win7 x64 took over my heavy iron duties. Cheers, SLuggy

Make sure that you haven't got an empty texture folder anywhere under FS9's main directory, or in any directory referenced by the scenery.cfg file.RegardsBob ScottColonel, USAF (ret)ATP IMEL Gulfstream II-III-IV-VColorado Springs, CO

Install a 64 bit OS, patch FS9 to make it large address aware. Presto. Problem solved.Alternatively, fiddle around with the 3GB switch.Sooner or later you will find that no matter what you try to tweak, you'll still eventually end up with OOM errors. The above two are the only working solutions.

Install a 64 bit OS, patch FS9 to make it large address aware. Presto. Problem solved.Alternatively, fiddle around with the 3GB switch.Sooner or later you will find that no matter what you try to tweak, you'll still eventually end up with OOM errors. The above two are the only working solutions.

True, True, True. Win 7 x64 is the way to go.

Thanks for the info on this problem. Right now with trying to learn the new Eaglesoft Citation X v2.0 I'm going to put this problem on the back burner for awhile. I'll save this thread and come back to it later. Thanks for your time. jerrycwo4

True, True, True. Win 7 x64 is the way to go.

Yes yes I will drink to that. I have been there. Since i switched to Win 7 Ult 64bit and patch large address aware, i have yet to get OOM.Fingers crossed!!! Hope this doesn't jinx it heheh.