If there's no NGX for FS9, what about a model/VC update for the original 737? I'm sure 99% of FS9 customers would be happy with that. Sure, a HUD and new systems would be awesome but that is an incentive to purchase the NGX. The only reason I don't fly the original 737 anymore is because I am a VC-only pilot - and let's face it, the original 737 VC just doesn't cut it anymore. I'd be willing to go as far as saying that the 737-700/800 variants is all anyone would ask for.We all know the 737 is a sweet spot in flight simulation, and I'm sure the numbers from your original NG series can back that up. The NG was a great simulation, and still is - it just lacks the visual detail of newer aircraft. You've already got the panels, gauges, aircraft systems, and sounds - all that's needed is a new VC and exterior model.Let's be clear - I'm not asking for (and I'm sure most of the avid FS9 users will understand) the aircraft to be redesigned from the ground up simply for FS2004. I'm saying that just a new cockpit and exterior model would be more than enough to make me drop another $50 into FS9 addons.

what do you mean IF. there IS no NGX for FS9. Even though this sounds good and all, i don't see this happening.

Not going to happen sorry, that code is way way too old to go mucking around in. The NGX is being coded from the ground up, it's not some sort of patch to the old one that could be incorporated somehow.

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http://forums1.avsim.net/index.php?showtopic=273567(etc....)

Come on, Scott, that wasn't necessary. He asked with a reasonable request, albeit one that can start a giant fight, Ryan responded politely and provided some information that is of value to those of us who like seeing "behind the veil" of programming, so there isn't a reason to post that link 20 times. Look, I'm with you: I'm pure FSX and don't get the fidelity to 9, but I appreciate that people who like PMDG and FS9 want to be included. It isn't going to happen, of course, but let's allow them the chance to ask for limited upgrades or what not and let the company respond, if they choose to.Peace, love and happiness for all....

Scott, I have read that thread many times and completely understand the logic and reasoning behind their business decision to develop the NGX as an FSX-only product - even though I strongly believe the new 737 would sell quite well on FS9. However, my request does not concern the NGX at all.There are many people who continue to use FS9 (myself included) as their primary simulator, and I am sure PMDG realizes that FS9 still holds a decent chunk of the market. Are sales for addons in FS2004 decreasing? Absolutely. However, it is not correct to say the decline in sales is purely because of new computer hardware and Windows 7. While these changes in technology undoubtedly play a small roll in the "transition" from FS2004 to FSX, they are not the only reasons for decreased interest in FS9 addons.Let's be clear: my request did not even slightly insinuate the NGX or part of the NGX to be ported to FS9. I am asking for a visual update to the original 737 (a new VC to be specific). All panels, gauges, aircraft systems, and sounds from the original aircraft would be left completely untouched.I am going to assume the amount of work that goes into developing a new VC for an old aircraft (remember - everything else in the simulation would remain untouched) would be more than compensated for - even on FS9. I am positive that an update to the original 737 would go over quite well with the old FS9ers, and considering it would be the last thing developed for FS2004 by PMDG, I am positive it would sell quite well also.

I am going to assume ....I am positive that ...I am positive it would ....

PMDG can always learn from someone with this amount of insight ... :(

Come on, Scott, that wasn't necessary. He asked with a reasonable request, albeit one that can start a giant fight, Ryan responded politely and provided some information that is of value to those of us who like seeing "behind the veil" of programming, so there isn't a reason to post that link 20 times. Look, I'm with you: I'm pure FSX and don't get the fidelity to 9, but I appreciate that people who like PMDG and FS9 want to be included. It isn't going to happen, of course, but let's allow them the chance to ask for limited upgrades or what not and let the company respond, if they choose to.Peace, love and happiness for all....

sorry, maybe you are right ... my post should have been ... :( http://forums1.avsim.net/index.php?showtopic=273567 :( :( http://forums1.avsim.net/index.php?showtopic=273567 B)...etc.

Scott, I have read that thread many times and completely understand the logic and reasoning ...

"...clear that the market for FS2004 customers is shrinking at an astonishing rate...""...leading to year-over-year increases for FSX products, and very steep declines in demand for FS2004 products...""...VERY dramatic decline in the sales of FS2004 products...""...no other PMDG product announced or in development will be considered for the FS2004 platform...""...and the numbers DRAMATICALLY favor us simplifying our development process and focusing on the platform where our customers are heading..."so with a ton of repeat and new loyal PMDG customers/followers who have waited literally years for particular aircrafts to be released who have/are/will be moving to FSX, you are asking PMDG do delay these by vectoring limited resources to a fs9 only development?

Why are you guys still going on about this topic? There is a clear answer by PMDG itself on this, that they wont be doing the facelift, so why continue debating the FSX versus FS9.

"...clear that the market for FS2004 customers is shrinking at an astonishing rate...""...leading to year-over-year increases for FSX products, and very steep declines in demand for FS2004 products...""...VERY dramatic decline in the sales of FS2004 products...""...no other PMDG product announced or in development will be considered for the FS2004 platform...""...and the numbers DRAMATICALLY favor us simplifying our development process and focusing on the platform where our customers are heading..."so with a ton of repeat and new loyal PMDG customers/followers who have waited literally years for particular aircrafts to be released who have/are/will be moving to FSX, you are asking PMDG do delay these by vectoring limited resources to a fs9 only development?

NO.... after the FSX release. I am not ready to say goodbye to PMDG yet since I am not moving over to FSX. :(

Get FSX you will love the difference in every aspect.

We may or may not be releasing the NG for FS9, but we will definitely be porting this over to FS2002..

should I redo my exterior model for FS2002 then? Watch out PMDG, the rumour is Pixar is just about to send me an offer

We may or may not be releasing the NG for FS9, but we will definitely be porting this over to FS2002..

What about FS98? I really miss the fact that you could put the aircraft into a dive engage reverse thrust and then watch the aircraft hover when the airspeed dropped to zero.. :)