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Intel Core i5 2500K Quad Core Unlocked Processor LGA1155 3.3GHZ Sandy Bridge 6MBASUS P8P67 Deluxe ATX LGA1155 P67 3PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 2PCI Sandy Bridge B3 Motherboard XFX 750W Black Edition Single Rail Modular ATX 12V 62A 24PIN ATX Power Supply 80PLUS SilverEVGA GTX 480 (owned it with my old build)Noctua NH-D14 LGA1155/1156/1366/AM3 I7/I5/PHENOM Heatpipe Cooler W/ NF-P14 140MM & NF-P12 120MM FanI now need RAM. Few people helped me out and I was ready to buy but it dissappeared in my Cart!!! I think I need either 6 or 8 gig, something VERY fast and something that will support my PC at 5.0ghz. I plan to really overclock this CPU. I currently have a normal SATA 1TD Hard-Drive and I didn't get a SSD because they are really expensive and people where saying that I need to have FSX and the OS on the same SSD in order to benefit my FSX performance. Any help with the ram? I tired to find the exact same ram on another Canadian site but I cannot find any! Cheers PS: Tell me what you guys think?

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You need dual channel ram for the socket 1155. 4GB or 8GB

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You need dual channel ram for the socket 1155. 4GB or 8GB
Ok so Dual Channel, 8 gig's, how fast, what Latency, how do I know it will work with my P67 board?

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Is it's Mhz fast enough, I thought you'd need like 2000mhz, its cheap too why?
I'm not entirely sure the speed of the memory makes an enormous difference. I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure 1600 would be enough.

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1333 or 1600 is fine. In fsx it really won't make that big a difference. The lower the latency the better. I have a cas latency of 8 on my G.SKILL, and it works great.

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1600 MHz is what intel recommends. I got this the other day for my build.G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) CAS 7 Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-8GBXHI'll tell you now that it's not on Asus's QVL list butG.Skill recommends it for your board and it gets great reviews on the P8P67 mobos.I think the QVL needs to be updated.

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why is the p67 platorm everyones fsx choice lately. Nothing tears apart fsx like 12GB of ram and 6 cores at 4.4 GHZ on a 1366 platform

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why is the p67 platorm everyones fsx choice lately. Nothing tears apart fsx like 12GB of ram and 6 cores at 4.4 GHZ on a 1366 platform
Not really. 12GB is overkill for FSX and performance doesn't scale with # of cores like that either. P67 CPU's (Sandy Bridge) have better IPC than X58 CPU's and overclock higher. Now factor price in and it's a no brainerMemory performance is also much better in P67An OCed I5 2500K @ 4.7GHz with 4GB of RAM outperforms an OCed I7 980X @ 4.4GHz by a 20-25% more or less

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why is the p67 platorm everyones fsx choice lately. Nothing tears apart fsx like 12GB of ram and 6 cores at 4.4 GHZ on a 1366 platform
First of all - 12GB is a waste of money and your computer isn't even using most of it. Secondly, FSX doesn't care for 6-cores.. a 4 core Sandy bridge at 4.8ghz will easily outperform any 6-core at 4.4ghz.And to Ron, no... FSX should be on a SEPARATE drive from OS. I have my OS on a typical 500gb HDD, while FSX is on a 60gb SSD.Dazz beat me to it. :)

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First of all - 12GB is a waste of money and your computer isn't even using most of it. Secondly, FSX doesn't care for 6-cores.. a 4 core Sandy bridge at 4.8ghz will easily outperform any 6-core at 4.4ghz.And to Ron, no... FSX should be on a SEPARATE drive from OS. I have my OS on a typical 500gb HDD, while FSX is on a 60gb SSD.Dazz beat me to it. :)
I'd beg to differ the 4.8GHz vs 4.4GHzThis is 2600k @ 5.1GHz vs 980x at stock 3.33GHz and hardly beats it, now throw a OC on it and your statement is just wrong.ceinbench1.png My personal Cinebench 11.5 and 11.04 @ 4.3GHz way past the 2600k @ 5.1 not even hitting 10 http://s448.photobucket.com/albums/qq210/StickMan2385/The%20Rig/?action=view&current=43.png980x (and 990x is out) not even behind 1.0 at the stock clock vs 2600k @ 5.1! I'm sure the 980x OC to anything over 4 would beat the 2600k still in that testSame applied for these too, step the 980x to anything over 4 and it be over the 2600ksandra-arith2.pngsandra-multi4.pngI do agree price is the best bang but not the strongest CPU even if the 2600k is clicking into 5000MHz-Raven Harris

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SO is my build good or not, Its JUST for FSX. Do i screw something up?

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Raven, those are heavily threaded benchmarks. In FSX Sandy Bridge wins

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SO is my build good or not, Its JUST for FSX. Do i screw something up?
No Ron. Your rig is great. No worries. :biggrin:You didn't screw anything up. This rig is going to run FSX really nicely.

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No Ron. Your rig is great. No worries. :biggrin:You didn't screw anything up. This rig is going to run FSX really nicely.
THANK YOU, the pressure is now release! I hope its better then my i7 920 3.6 Ghz machine.

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I have a question for everyone. When I fly MSFSX with the PMDG MD11, for example, in a heavy airport, per example Aerosoft Mega Airport Madrid, I don't get more than 6 / 10 FPS.My configuration is basically:Motherboard: Asus P6T Deluxe V2.CPU: QuadCore Intel Core i7 950, 3200 MHz (24 x 133)Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 - Driver version 8.17.12.6658 - nVIDIA ForceWare 66.58 - Memory size 1536MBRAM: 8GB (4x2) DDR3 Kingston 9905403-011.A03LFWhere do you think is the bottleneck?I am looking to buy a more powerful processor.Could you give me some idea to improve FPS?PD: I have configured the graphic Card with the NvidiaInspector fllowin the advise of Ryan MaziarzThanks in advance and excuse my poor english.Francisco Mateos

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THANK YOU, the pressure is now release! I hope its better then my i7 920 3.6 Ghz machine.
Ron, you convinced me to move from my E8500 to a SB build. I went for the 2500k on ASUS P8P67 with 4GB of GSkill Ripjaws X 1600.I can now stop worrying about the NGX not running well on my PC. :Party:Oh yeah, all this for under $500, seems like worthy upgrade, but we shall see when it's up and running.

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Ron, you convinced me to move from my E8500 to a SB build. I went for the 2500k on ASUS P8P67 with 4GB of GSkill Ripjaws X 1600.I can now stop worrying about the NGX not running well on my PC. :Party:Oh yeah, all this for under $500, seems like worthy upgrade, but we shall see when it's up and running.
Ya man, this will be my cheapest build ever, and supposly the best too for FSX anyway

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I have a question for everyone. When I fly MSFSX with the PMDG MD11, for example, in a heavy airport, per example Aerosoft Mega Airport Madrid, I don't get more than 6 / 10 FPS.My configuration is basically:Motherboard: Asus P6T Deluxe V2.CPU: QuadCore Intel Core i7 950, 3200 MHz (24 x 133)Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 - Driver version 8.17.12.6658 - nVIDIA ForceWare 66.58 - Memory size 1536MBRAM: 8GB (4x2) DDR3 Kingston 9905403-011.A03LFWhere do you think is the bottleneck?I am looking to buy a more powerful processor.Could you give me some idea to improve FPS?PD: I have configured the graphic Card with the NvidiaInspector fllowin the advise of Ryan MaziarzThanks in advance and excuse my poor english.Francisco Mateos
It's probably a combination of that particular scenery itself and your relatively low CPU speed compared to those of us who overclock (3.2 vs. 4.0+ is a big deal in FSX). What kind of performance do you get at sceneries that are known to be very well optimized like Orbx YMML 2.0, Fly Tampa KTPA Reloaded or Flightbeam KSFO? I get very good performance at these airports using a similar system. Scenery developers have to be very careful with how many draw calls they're causing due to the way the FSX engine works. There's certain ways that you can always bring FSX's performance to its knees even on the most powerful computer money can buy unfortunately. The engine is old and doesn't take advantage of GPUs the way that more modern game engines do.

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It's probably a combination of that particular scenery itself and your relatively low CPU speed compared to those of us who overclock (3.2 vs. 4.0+ is a big deal in FSX). What kind of performance do you get at sceneries that are known to be very well optimized like Orbx YMML 2.0, Fly Tampa KTPA Reloaded or Flightbeam KSFO? I get very good performance at these airports using a similar system. Scenery developers have to be very careful with how many draw calls they're causing due to the way the FSX engine works. There's certain ways that you can always bring FSX's performance to its knees even on the most powerful computer money can buy unfortunately. The engine is old and doesn't take advantage of GPUs the way that more modern game engines do.
Ryan, I really hope the NGX will have at least a little bit better performance than the JS41, I am literally building a new computer so I can use it over ORBX FTX Scenery in Australia. I own the JS41 and it's pretty good in FPS if you use the CP to lower the settings but sometimes it can be low if Im flying in YBBN or YSSY. Not that the scenery isnt CPU intensive because it is but every little bit counts.

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I have a question for everyone. When I fly MSFSX with the PMDG MD11, for example, in a heavy airport, per example Aerosoft Mega Airport Madrid, I don't get more than 6 / 10 FPS.My configuration is basically:Motherboard: Asus P6T Deluxe V2.CPU: QuadCore Intel Core i7 950, 3200 MHz (24 x 133)Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 - Driver version 8.17.12.6658 - nVIDIA ForceWare 66.58 - Memory size 1536MBRAM: 8GB (4x2) DDR3 Kingston 9905403-011.A03LFWhere do you think is the bottleneck?I am looking to buy a more powerful processor.Could you give me some idea to improve FPS?PD: I have configured the graphic Card with the NvidiaInspector fllowin the advise of Ryan MaziarzThanks in advance and excuse my poor english.Francisco Mateos
Francisco - you need to overclock that CPU. Get it up in the 3.8 to 4 ghz range and you will see an improvement. Your I7 will easilly hit 4 ghz with good aircooling. Realistically though, even with my CPU oc'd to 4ghz, good video card, 6 gigs or RAM, I am in the very low teens at complex airports, with moderate traffice (fsx native traffice to boot) and a plane like the PMDG MD11. The technology is just starting to catch up with what FSX offers, esp, if you want realistic weather, better clouds. Tom's Hardware Guide has some good articles on overclocking. Colin Ware

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The engine is old and doesn't take advantage of GPUs the way that more modern game engines do.
- Is there much difference between the 560 Ti and the 570? Is it worth to spend more to get the 570 instead of the 560 Ti?- Is there much difference between 460/480 en 560 Ti? Is it worth to spend more to get the 560 Ti instead of the 480?Already many thanks for your help, Ryan. And by the way, please keep going with the good development! Don't rush through the proces because some kids want it ... :(

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In case of using SSD (for example 160 Gb), together with HDD, is it still not possible or even better to have OS and FSX together on the SSD?Just curious because I'm planning to buy a new PC for FSX.Ype Reitsma

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