Dazz, as you probably know Intel is giving an absolute voltage for all CPU, does that mean that if you go over the absolute voltage you'll fry your CPU, maybe and maybe not, Intel is playing safe (warranty).You could not belived what voltage I was running my Q9650 at, it ran for over 2 years at voltage well over the absolute max from Intel, I still have it. I fried a QX6850 ($1,000.00) 4 years ago but not because of voltage but more because of my own stupidity.I get no joy out of frying a CPU just to see how far I can push it, everybody can do that, but I enjoy to see how far I can push it with little adjustment here and there without frying it.I can ear you all saying "Well at this kind of voltage your CPU will not last more than 2 years if your lucky" guess what, in 2 years it will be time for a new and up to date one, in the mean time I'll get my money worth out of this $1,000.00 CPU I have one golden rule about overclocking, here it is, "If you can't afford to overclock don't"...:Peace:

Don't get me wrong, so long as you know what you're doing and you know there is a risk (keeping temps in check is not enough, you can have electro-migration due to excessive Vcore) it's perfectly fine. I don't know if it would last two months, two years or 20 years, but I personally won't take the risk. If you have the money and don't mind the hassle of reassembling (and isn't that fun anyway? ) then why not?I would do the same if I was loaded

Hmmm... Not sure what your point is? Too bad we don´t have him over here anymore, cause there´s too much guessing and fiddling-hoopla going on here IMO...http://www.simforums...topic39136.htmlFried Chips anyone?!

Actually, I really don't think anybody knows for sure. So of course it's a bunch of guessing and fiddling-hoopla! Anybody can claim to know, but it simply falls back to what they have decided to be true. I have decided on a 1.4V max vcore just to be safe. 2 years from now when enough chips have died, we may find that 1.4v is actually not safe or perhaps that 1.5v was safe all along, but that's the limit I have set for myself for now.

@ dazz and allainne:Doods! Those are some impressive temps! Until today I've had it in my head that the NH d14 was liquid. While I don't know how I came to believe the D14 was liquid I do know that I had dismissed it a while back due to its size .....maybe I'll reconsider it.@ Corey:That H100 looks cool, but I'm concerned about their new "light weight design". I mean, don't you need mass for effective surface cooling?

Yep. FSX, with moderate to high settings, at 5.0GHz uses less energy than a 4 core Prime test at 4.6ghz. In fact, a 4 core Prime test at 5.0 uses roughly the same amount of energy as FSX at 5.4GHz.BTW, for you haters out there ----I'm running at a new 5.0 volt setting: offset at -10. uh huh - under 1.40v. Been running the setting since yesterday. Did a Prime95 2 core test that rocked between 1.382 to 1.396 (FSX uses 'bout the same amount of energy as a Prime95 2 core test).For those that are interested: The .15 volts off my previous volt setting means about 2c.

While there's a few other words I'd like to take back in the above post, I'll only take the time to make the correction highlighted in bold: .15 should say .015.

He-he!I like your attitude alainneedle1, and BTW I just changed the thermalpaste on my CPU, from "Geled -something.. " - to "Tuniq TX 4" - and the temps dropped 4 degrees C.!Did a very thin layer, not the blob in the middle, no, no - just a thin layer all over the CPU....... on the way to 5.0 Ghz!

Here man, take this with ya 5.4GHz :-)

@ dazz and allainne:Doods! Those are some impressive temps! Until today I've had it in my head that the NH d14 was liquid. While I don't know how I came to believe the D14 was liquid I do know that I had dismissed it a while back due to its size .....maybe I'll reconsider it.@ Corey:That H100 looks cool, but I'm concerned about their new "light weight design". I mean, don't you need mass for effective surface cooling?

I think you're confusing density with mass. Mass is surface area, which in the case of a heatsink/radiator = dissipation area. The greater the dissipation area, the more heat can be dissipated and at a faster rate. While no one has reviewed the H100 yet, I'm pretty sure its cooling capacity exceeds that of any other self-contained water cooling system on the market, let alone air coolers.

I think you're confusing density with mass. Mass is surface area, which in the case of a heatsink/radiator = dissipation area. The greater the dissipation area, the more heat can be dissipated and at a faster rate. While no one has reviewed the H100 yet, I'm pretty sure its cooling capacity exceeds that of any other self-contained water cooling system on the market, let alone air coolers.

What concerns me is that one has reviewed it nor does Corsair mention how it compares to their existing 'H' lineup. I don't know anything 'bout physics but, I read somewhere that mass is mass is mass. The new "light weight" sounds like their substituting precious metal for water and air (larger fans).

Let me throw down some background before I begin. Corsair recently switched from Asetek to CoolIT. While the H50 and H70 were both made by Asetek, the H60, H80, and H100 are all CoolIT products.Now that Corsair has announced their H100, Asetek is also coming out with a dual radiator system called the WaterChill 2011C. This thing has a thicker radiator (1.5" thick) than the Corsair H100 and Asetek has generally made a better block than CoolIT. Makes me wonder why Corsair switched from Asetek to CoolIT in the first place. Anyway, I can't wait to see a review putting Asetek's WaterChill 2011C, Corsair's H100, and Noctua's NH-D14 head to head! And hopefully inside a decently ventilated computer case, not some irrelevant open air test bench.The only problem is that the Asetek unit will not be available until early August according to Legit Reviews. I should also mention that the Corsair unit uses a copper block and an aluminum radiator. That's terrible for corrosion, though probably not a problem since Corsair puts some sort of corrosion inhibitor in their liquid. And for the sake of having an image of both units in one post...

I am almost certainly going to go with the Noctua's NH-D14. I am still paranoid of a leak after my disaster last time that cost me a new board and video card, also read some horror stories on the Corsair forums of some of these fully contained units breaking and leaking liquid all over the system. I know its rare but with the SB chips not sure its worth the extra risk.Mark.

What I don't understand is why they all use 3 pin power connector constant speed fans. On my H70, I got tired of hearing the constant whine of 2000 rpm. So, I replaced the fans with 4 pin PWM fans. With 2 Scythe Kama-Flex PWM fans hooked up with a PWM Y Cable from gelidsolutions, I can run the fans off my CPU fan power header on my mobo. Now the cooling cranks up and slows down based on actual CPU power input...sweet!

If I understand correctly, I believe both the Corsair H100 and Asetek units will be able to control the fans. It's not exactly clear whether or not the Corsair H100 needs the Corsair Link kit to do that.Here's a quote from Asetek:

The low-profile pump is fitted with Asetek’s 3rd Generation coldplate technology and supports interactive fan control technology for all four fans. A USB connection on the pump enables sophisticated user control of fans and lighting effects via Asetek’s ChillControl software app.