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I was doing a nighttime landing into ORBX's superb YMML Melbourne Intl. Airport in FSX, and I was very pleased with the textures, models and ligthing. The one thing that stood out in the brightly lit terminal area was the all the dark aircraft, including mine. All the aircraft look like they were sitting in a dark unlit field. It just really was a stark realization that this is just a sim. I would love to see some lighting on aircraft as they sit or approach the terminal flood lights. I hope this is something that is really improved in MS Flight. Do we have any hint at the lighting in the game using real-time rendered 3d lights or are we going back to light textures on aircraft?

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I was doing a nighttime landing into ORBX's superb YMML Melbourne Intl. Airport in FSX, and I was very pleased with the textures, models and ligthing. The one thing that stood out in the brightly lit terminal area was the all the dark aircraft, including mine. All the aircraft look like they were sitting in a dark unlit field. It just really was a stark realization that this is just a sim. I would love to see some lighting on aircraft as they sit or approach the terminal flood lights. I hope this is something that is really improved in MS Flight. Do we have any hint at the lighting in the game using real-time rendered 3d lights or are we going back to light textures on aircraft?
yes i completely agree the lighting in the airports in fsx is awful doesnt look real at all they need to add lights on the terminals where the aircraft park hopefully this will be done in flight

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HI Niyko We really dont know yet, I too hope that they do consider this and upgrade the lighting system and not go back too with just the textures. funny thing is that x-plane is working with global lighting lets hope the ms flight team is looking at its competition. Im assumming the msflight team wants do that with the video card shaders etc etc but there budget and time will tell. http://www.x-plane.c...is-it-good-for/

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I must say, MS Flight better have it together, X-Plane 10 is REALLY coming together nicely.

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I must say, MS Flight better have it together, X-Plane 10 is REALLY coming together nicely.
I agree. As a MSFS fan since version 5.1, I have to say I'm more excited about XP10 than Flight.Speaking of the lighting engine, we already know from the promo videos that Flight will have mountains casting shadows on aircraft.

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This global lighting really looks good, it even casts shadows :(

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I agree. As a MSFS fan since version 5.1, I have to say I'm more excited about XP10 than Flight.
I like some of the features and looks of XP10, but I dont like the way you have limited AI and the fact that PMDG or LDS dont make anything for it, as well as the limited amount of addon airports/scenery available for it.

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I like some of the features and looks of XP10, but I dont like the way you have limited AI and the fact that PMDG or LDS dont make anything for it, as well as the limited amount of addon airports/scenery available for it.
I fly online so I don't care much about AI. The only advantage over XPlane that MSFS has is the variety in voices but in practice FSX's ATC is rather poor at separating traffic if its anything more than the default airlines. I wouldn't discount X-Plane 10's AI traffic so quickly. Take a look at what the developers have shown on their website. Their AI uses a physics engine that allows them to react with the environment. Makes for more fluid action as well the ability to populate airports with sloped runways/taxiways. (However, the CPU load using this method could add up fast.)I would say XPlane's default scenery is a step up from FSX's default scenery. For one thing taxiway markings are much easier to customize. In FSX it takes either a placing a ridiculous amount of nodes that will usually confuse AI traffic or creating ground polys for accurate markings. Also, XPlane by default has 3D taxiway lighting that are part of the airport infrastructure by default. In FSX that would mean hours of work.Your point about PMDG and LDS is well taken but I can say the same thing about the JRollon Project CRJ-200 for X-Plane. My budget for add-ons is limited anyways.With all that being said I'll have to wait and see what Flight brings to the table.

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I fly online so I don't care much about AI. The only advantage over XPlane that MSFS has is the variety in voices but in practice FSX's ATC is rather poor at separating traffic if its anything more than the default airlines. I wouldn't discount X-Plane 10's AI traffic so quickly. Take a look at what the developers have shown on their website. Their AI uses a physics engine that allows them to react with the environment. Makes for more fluid action as well the ability to populate airports with sloped runways/taxiways. (However, the CPU load using this method could add up fast.)I would say XPlane's default scenery is a step up from FSX's default scenery. For one thing taxiway markings are much easier to customize. In FSX it takes either a placing a ridiculous amount of nodes that will usually confuse AI traffic or creating ground polys for accurate markings. Also, XPlane by default has 3D taxiway lighting that are part of the airport infrastructure by default. In FSX that would mean hours of work.Your point about PMDG and LDS is well taken but I can say the same thing about the JRollon Project CRJ-200 for X-Plane. My budget for add-ons is limited anyways.With all that being said I'll have to wait and see what Flight brings to the table.
i dont see what you see in xplane

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HI Niyko We really dont know yet, I too hope that they do consider this and upgrade the lighting system and not go back too with just the textures. funny thing is that x-plane is working with global lighting lets hope the ms flight team is looking at its competition. Im assumming the msflight team wants do that with the video card shaders etc etc but there budget and time will tell. http://www.x-plane.c...is-it-good-for/
Hi Silverbird,It was that exactly link and news about x-plane that sparked this post. I have no interest in x-plane at all, but I was definitely impressed with the real-time lighting they are showing off. After X-plane showing this feature off, it would be nice to see the MS Flight team show off Flight's lighting...it would be really nice. :(

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I would be very surprised if lighting didn't improve. FSX's lighting dates back to 2006 of course, and even then it was arguably a couple of years behind the games released at that time due to the added complexity of a flight sim. While I don't expect the lighting to look like a brand new game, if they can give it, say, 2007-2008 game lighting, it will be dramatically improved.

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