No I don't think so... You can try it before it goes live... PM me for details. I'm not personally involved but I know the designer and a few of the controllers on there. The drones fly to and from the uncontrolled fields, and en route, civilian and military aircraft. They are basically there to simulate traffic advisories and for the pilot to work themselves into the pattern at non towered airports. They do have a few downfalls though - they don't see you and they don't talk on the frequency hehe. So it's see and avoid at its finest in those areas. The best part about Pilot Edge is you can use the real world freqs listed on the charts and always talk to a real human. The bad part about it is limited coverage area. But the purpose of Pilot Edge is to simply let new pilots work on their radio skills so they don't have to lose focus while flying the plane.

So, its like a Mini Vatsim, with Drones, and limited to the USA. Limited coverage would not seem to be a major issue. Far better to have a few Pilots concentated as hight density traffic in a limted area, than higher numbers, spread out across the globe, in very low traffic density. Nothing is more boring than opening a Tower (say on Vatsim), and getting a grand total of 2 aircraft over a 5 hour period !!

For those of you arguing about FSX being a game/hobby or training tool, you should read this: http://forum.avsim.n...67#entry1865067

Game or not, it'd still be a hobby (as far as my interpretation of the word "hobby" goes)... The better question is "simulation" or "game". Around these forums you'll get a resounding "simulation". So for me, simulation and training tool.

FSX is only a GAME. !! Sorry, but if you think otherwise, you really do need to get a life.

Says one of the most active members in these forums, lately. Truly though, you're wrong (at least regarding some of us). Maybe for folks such as yourself with only a passing interest in "PC" aviation your statement is true, but my interest are tangled 99% in aviation. It's my lively hood in all respects, and a training tool to help hone my instrument/radio/procedures skills is priceless. When I'm flying the NGX though, yes, a simulation game!

FSX is only a GAME. !! Sorry, but if you think otherwise, you really do need to get a life.

It's what you make it! Or what the developer makes it; in witch case PMDG has not given us a 'toy'. It's not a game nor a full simulator. BUT for me I use as procedural simulator to keep fresh and not get lazy. If you fly in real life or want to fly in real life then you don't want to develop or at least minimize your bad habits. FSX is good for learning and sticking to your flows and procedures or even navigation. If you have a true passion alone for aviation or more so the PC aviation hobby calling it a game is a insult. Also to say ones need to get a life over their like/love of a hobby then the same can be said for your hobbies or main hobby. As most of us do have lives as we've have found what we like in life, only if you neglect daily oblations would one need to get a 'life' but more so HELP. My second hobby is Nitro RC cars and trucks. What your going to tell me I need to get a 'real' monster truck as just the RC truck itself is a game... It's a hobby to past time and not be rude to others witch you might consider getting one too and not worry how others treat their hobbies. Now think about the real world pilots who use FSX, I'd say if was too much a game they would have long been gone so it dose fill a need/urge there as well.

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SIMULATED EXPERIENCE :-) For me it's sometimes a game & sometimes "dead serious" it all depends on what mood I am in, what my goal is, or what airplane I'm flying:)As an CPL holder it is an tremendous help for me to be able to practice my IFR flying skills, instrument scan, emergences etc...in advance.For instance I had to do an PC a few years back in a PA 34 Seneca II, an airplane I never had sat my foot in & at an airfield I never visited before....so I bought the PA34 addon, downloaded all the chars, & practiced all approaches, procedures, checklist items, in the sim 1 month before my PC.....at the day of my PC, I felt so at home in the aircraft & at the airfield, everything went so smooth & I saved allot of money too, thanx FSX:)) I have always been interested in aviation, but before I got into flightsiming in 2007 my field of knowledge wasn't as broad as it is now! I often find myself thinking "how do they do it?", "how hard can it be?" or "how does it work?"....well with flightsim I can always brush up my knowledge of a particular subject, may it bee aerobatics, helicopters, shortest commercial operating rwy in the world, ,accident reconstruction, or military flying (FC2&DCS a10). The sim gives me the opportunity to explore, understand, get insight, and learn new things. I get a "simulated experience" of things I would never come close to, by just reeding a book, FCOM, or watching a documentary about it. Hey if I had the money I'II do it for real....but I am totally satisfied with doing it "simulated" on my computer too:))) Sometimes, especially when I show the sim for my pilot friends, we get all crazy & wild and brake all sorts of regulations:)) yes even with the NGX:)) then it's a game!I suppose the best part about it is that it can be treated as a game but also as an sophisticated simulation & learning platform...it's all up to the user:))))) /Rodd

It's what you make it!

Finally, someone has got it !!! It's what YOU make it, not what someone else consider its should be to you and othersIt's different things to different people -- eveyone is different - everyone sees FS as something different. It's a GameIt's a HobbyIt's a SimulatorIt's an ObsessionIt's a substiture for the real thingIt's a JOB,It's a ChallengeIt's a way to meet and share the company of other like minded peopleIt's a way to push yourself and learn something newIt's a training tool for both novice & experienced pilotsIt's an opening into discovering a career in aviationIt's an EXPENSEIt's a massive consumer of timeIt's an escape from the reality of the real worldIt's a mystery to most spousesIt's a PASSIONIt's a Frustrationbut above all, it SHOULD be FUN -- or why do it ? It's certainly NOT something everyone should be argueing about !!

It's certainly NOT something everyone should be argueing about !!

This is a forum, sir! Arguments are not only entertaining, but one of the very purposes for the forum. See how even that can be turned into an argument?

FSX is only a GAME. !! Sorry, but if you think otherwise, you really do need to get a life.

Finally, someone has got it !!! It's what YOU make it, not what someone else consider its should be to you and othersIt's different things to different people -- eveyone is different - everyone sees FS as something different. ... but above all, it SHOULD be FUN -- or why do it ? It's certainly NOT something everyone should be argueing about !!

Wow, Geoff! You certainly seem to have had a change of heart. In politics, they call that flip-flopping. Geoff #1 tells us that we need to get a life if we think FSX is not a game. Geoff #2 tells us that FSX is different things to different people and that we shouldn't argue about it. Funny thing is, nobody was "arguing" about it until Geoff #1 showed up. WHO IS GEOFF? Trevor Moore

Wow, Geoff! You certainly seem to have had a change of heart. In politics, they call that flip-flopping. Geoff #1 tells us that we need to get a life if we think FSX is not a game. Geoff #2 tells us that FSX is different things to different people and that we shouldn't argue about it. Funny thing is, nobody was "arguing" about it until Geoff #1 showed up. WHO IS GEOFF? Trevor Moore

Lol. "Read My Lips."

my personal opinion: clean fsx only: gamefsx + pmdg = systems simulation but with game flight dynamicsfsx + pmdg + xplane = best simulation under 150 dollars Edit: microsoft has given the wrong title to the series coz should be: Flight Systems Simulator X instead of Flight Simulator X :) ("systems" word because of developer like PMDG) otherwise the title was just "Flight Game X"

Whatever you want to call it, it does help those who are training to become private/instrument pilots.. You can't feel what you feel in a real plane, but it does make you more prepared if you practice ILS approaches and basic private pilot maneuvers. With today's yokes, pedals, and throttle quadrants for flight sims, it's become a great training aid.. Add PMDG to the mix and some great addon airports, and atc voice program, and you've got yourself a SIM... I would encourage everyone just to take an introductory flight if you've never flown before, you'll either think this is not for me, or you'll get hooked..

well although it seems we are looked at as wannabees by some i take it very seriously just because i am not an airline pilot does not mean i dont try to follow real world procedures even if it is a sim someone above said get a life I suppose they are a rw driver and not very sympathetic to those that cant be "professional" versus Wannabee for what ever reason as Robert Randazzo put it, that was from another thread where there was attitude going on about Real world pilots and sim pilots . No disrespect to Robert those guys are true legends it just thought that comment was ordinary perhaps I took it in the wrong context from another thread to sensitive man i guess

well considering how much I payed for it...pretty seriously...Once I started using realistic add ons...I realized how crappy wilco, abacus, and default aircraft really are. One problem though since there is no FMC in the Posky 777, I dont know what to do without a PMDG quality aircraft :(

well considering how much I payed for it...pretty seriously...Once I started using realistic add ons...I realized how crappy wilco, abacus, and default aircraft really are. One problem though since there is no FMC in the Posky 777, I dont know what to do without a PMDG quality aircraft

+1

well considering how much I payed for it...pretty seriously...Once I started using realistic add ons...I realized how crappy wilco, abacus, and default aircraft really are. One problem though since there is no FMC in the Posky 777, I dont know what to do without a PMDG quality aircraft

Wilco had the 737 PIC and the ERJ series. The 737PIC is one of my old FS9 favorites, and the Feelthere ERJ V2 is my favorite regional for FS9/FSX. Also, it's a little crummy downing other companies in a support forum for PMDG. Unless it's completely objective.

Wilco had the 737 PIC and the ERJ series. The 737PIC is one of my old FS9 favorites, and the Feelthere ERJ V2 is my favorite regional for FS9/FSX. Also, it's a little crummy downing other companies in a support forum for PMDG. Unless it's completely objective.

+1 And Spencer I wouldn't qualify those products as being crappy...Old, but not crappy.