September 1, 201114 yr Just fly a mission or do a race in FSX to see how gamey it really is. Exactly my point. Aces development team intentionally designed flight simulator to appeal to two audiences. One audience, my 6 year old son and the rest of the average Joes (maybe you too), who are bored with COD4 for the moment, don't appreciate the complexity of an aircraft like the NGX. For this easy to please crowd, FSX provides missions and races. Whether you want to fly through green circles in the sky or participate in the jet truck drag race, FSX default missions are the place to be. They require no thought and minimal skill. Let's face it, while these people are not flying in a drag race or running Loopy Larry, they are either coloring in coloring books, playing in the sandbox or pretending to be Warlocks and high elves on World of Warcraft. Not the kind of person you would expect to find in the left seat of a 737 -- real or simulated. The second audience doesn't fly the silly default missions and simply wants a complex platform on which to operate a high fidelity simulator. FSX provides this. The NGX community fits in this category. Microsoft was smart here. Why would you make a product that caters to only one market when you can cater to two markets with the same product? Trevor
September 1, 201114 yr Judging form the comments I have hit a nerve so i must be onto something.Nah. We're just feeding the troll (you). ___________________________________________________________________________________ Zachary Waddell -- Caravan Driver -- Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/zwaddell Avsim ToS Avsim Screenshot Rules
September 1, 201114 yr Judging form the comments I have hit a nerve so i must be onto something.No I don't think so... I don't think my mind needs changing -- but, thanks for pointing out Pilotedge. Looks promissing, if it gets the support to make it workable. Will keep an eye out to see how it progresses past "beta". If you are part of this organization, I wish you every success. It looks like a LOT of initial work and planning has gone onto this, so I hope it is a success for you. Not sure about the drones !!! How that works out will be interesting in a MP environment. DAFSIM ? You can try it before it goes live... PM me for details. I'm not personally involved but I know the designer and a few of the controllers on there. The drones fly to and from the uncontrolled fields, and en route, civilian and military aircraft. They are basically there to simulate traffic advisories and for the pilot to work themselves into the pattern at non towered airports. They do have a few downfalls though - they don't see you and they don't talk on the frequency hehe. So it's see and avoid at its finest in those areas. The best part about Pilot Edge is you can use the real world freqs listed on the charts and always talk to a real human. The bad part about it is limited coverage area. But the purpose of Pilot Edge is to simply let new pilots work on their radio skills so they don't have to lose focus while flying the plane. | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
September 1, 201114 yr Exactly my point. Aces development team intentionally designed flight simulator to appeal to two audiences. One audience, my 6 year old son and the rest of the average Joes (maybe you too), who are bored with COD4 for the moment, don't appreciate the complexity of an aircraft like the NGX. For this easy to please crowd, FSX provides missions and races. Whether you want to fly through green circles in the sky or participate in the jet truck drag race, FSX default missions are the place to be. They require no thought and minimal skill. Let's face it, while these people are not flying in a drag race or running Loopy Larry, they are either coloring in coloring books, playing in the sandbox or pretending to be Warlocks and high elves on World of Warcraft. Not the kind of person you would expect to find in the left seat of a 737 -- real or simulated. The second audience doesn't fly the silly default missions and simply wants a complex platform on which to operate a high fidelity simulator. FSX provides this. The NGX community fits in this category. Microsoft was smart here. Why would you make a product that caters to only one market when you can cater to two markets with the same product? Trevor +1 Chris Verner Home cockpit builder ...well trying anyway
September 1, 201114 yr you win or lose games. Thats why FSX would not be considered a game. You don't win or lose. Its a hobby. There's a start to the over-all definition...I always auto-land because I'm so ###### by the time I arrive. Dude, you auto land all the time :(
September 1, 201114 yr Dude, you auto land all the time Only when I press the right buttons! Sometimes I'm just too drunk to remember the procedure.... -- X-Plane, Mac OS, XSB
September 1, 201114 yr I was a real world airline pilot for many years. While I do take flying seriously and try to get a realistic simulation while using FSX and PMDG products, I don't get so wrapped up in it that it becomes a chore instead ofan enjoyable hobby. Some of you people need to relax and have a good time while still flying these aircraft properly and following the rules. There's nothing wrong with having a cold brew either.Pete Locascio Pete Locascio Intel Core Ultra 9 285K, Nvidia RTX 5090, Samsung 9100 Pro 2&4 TB Drives, 64 GB RAM, Asus Z-890 motherboard.
September 1, 201114 yr I was a real world airline pilot for many years. While I do take flying seriously and try to get a realistic simulation while using FSX and PMDG products, I don't get so wrapped up in it that it becomes a chore instead ofan enjoyable hobby. Some of you people need to relax and have a good time while still flying these aircraft properly and following the rules. There's nothing wrong with having a cold brew either.Pete Locascio I completely disagree. I will never drink beer while operating an aircraft. To suggest such a thing is disgraceful and unprofessional. Instead, I drink scotch.Trevor
September 1, 201114 yr I completely disagree. I will never drink beer while operating an aircraft. To suggest such a thing is disgraceful and unprofessional. Instead, I drink scotch. TrevorLol. So much for the 8 hours bottle to throttle rule. New rules: No smoking within 8 hours and no drinking within 50 feet of an aircraft (unless you have a brown bag)... ___________________________________________________________________________________ Zachary Waddell -- Caravan Driver -- Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/zwaddell Avsim ToS Avsim Screenshot Rules
September 1, 201114 yr I completely disagree. I will never drink beer while operating an aircraft. To suggest such a thing is disgraceful and unprofessional. Instead, I drink scotch. Trevor Hey, hey!Win! To bad I'm under aged, alcohol seems quite a joy while flying.But it's a shame I'll have to avoid consuming much because of diabetes, buzzkill.
September 1, 201114 yr Judging form the comments I have hit a nerve so i must be onto something. You know what, MAD-Rich, I do believe you are onto something! Are you sure your 4 year old flies helicopters and not buses?
September 1, 201114 yr I take taxi, take off, climb, descent, and landing serious but cruise I just leave it on auto pilot and monitor it every 15 or 20 min... Carlitos Colon
September 1, 201114 yr For those of you arguing about FSX being a game/hobby or training tool, you should read this: http://forum.avsim.net/topic/314239-is-msfs-a-hobby-or-a-game/page__p__1865067#entry1865067 Dylan Charles "The aircraft G-limits are only there in case there is another flight by that particular airplane. If subsequent flights do not appear likely, there are no G-limits."
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