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HelloIf you have used the 9.1 update it will have created a backup folder in your FS9 root folder with all of the replaced files in there.

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Does anyone have a list of the .bgl's that the FS9.1 update changes, adds, or replaces?
scenery\generic\scenery\generic.bglscenery\generic\scenery\bridges.bglscenery\generic\scenery\bridges01.bgl John

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Thanks. Do you know if these .bgl's position the bridges, or are just the objects? I can't load the update because it causes crashes on my machine. I want to try to add the bridges without the rest of the update.

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Thanks. Do you know if these .bgl's position the bridges, or are just the objects? I can't load the update because it causes crashes on my machine. I want to try to add the bridges without the rest of the update.
They must do as they are the only BGL files in the upgrade. You will need to be canny to extract these from the upgrade file, though, as it looks for your Flight Simulator installation and won't install without it. It might be best to temporarily disable/move your existing setup and install the upgrade to a fresh FS install. That should work without any crashes. Then you could move those files, reinstate your full setup and copy the necessary files across. Personally, I would be looking into what is causing the crashes as many of the upgraded DLL files were actually issued to overcome crashes in v9.0. John

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It has something to do with my registry. I have done a fresh install of Winxp and then FS9. No problems. Load the update and the "not responding" problem comes back when loading a flight. If I uninstall the update and then FS9, then reload FS9, the problem is still there. I have replicated this more than once at this point. I tried cleaning with Wise Registry Cleaner and then manually with regedit, but I missed whatever is causing the glitch. So right now FS9 is working great and I am not putting that patch in. I read that "bridges_2.zip" is all of the bridges from the update but the file doesn't seem to be available anymore. My 2nd option, like you said, is to load FS9 on another machine with the update and extract the .bgl's. I appreciate the help!

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I think youre doing something wrong on you're end. If the patch was the problem it would have been revealled a long time ago. How are you installing FS9?? And then the patch? Pls detail the way you do your FS9 install and then the patch. Then if youre doing something wrong someone here can correct you to the right way. When you say fresh install of Win XP, is it SP1, 2 or 3. Why do you need to reinstall XP, it has nothing to do with FS9. Pls provide more info so you can get on right path. :)

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...I can't load the update because it causes crashes on my machine. I want to try to add the bridges without the rest of the update.
Can you give details of what actually happens?

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OK, the heart of the problem is that FS9 stops responding(according to windows task manager) while loading a flight, and then after sometimes as long as 10 minutes, continues loading and everything is fine. When it first started happening I thought I just loaded a bad addon, so my plan was to uninstall FS9 and start over loading 1 addon at a time so I could isolate the problem. However, with a fresh install of FS9, the problem was still there. I tried cleaning the registry manually and with automatic cleaners like Wise and Tune-up Utilities but that didn't help either. The next step was to format my drives and really start over. So now I have a fresh format, fresh WinXP (with all service packs and updates installed), and another fresh FS9 install. After testing FS9 on the fresh system, everything was perfect. I loaded the 9.1 update(and I did follow the instructions on the Microsoft site) and the problem returned. I tried unistalling the update and then FS9 to try again, but the problem remained after loading only FS9. I have 3 160 gig drives and 1 of then is dedicated to flight sim. I tried formatting only the flight sim drive, but after a fresh FS9 install the problem was still there. This is why I think it's a registry problem. So once again I formatted the whole system and reinstalled WinXP. I now have FS9 running without the update and FSGenesis, UT, Ground Env Pro, REX, and some Megascenery with no problem. I don't know why it's happening, but it definitely occurs after the 9.1 install, and I have made it happen repeatedly. That's my story and I'm sticking with it! Thanks so much for trying to help, this has been a thorn in my side for months now. All I want to do is fly.

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OK, the heart of the problem is that FS9 stops responding(according to windows task manager) while loading a flight, and then after sometimes as long as 10 minutes, continues loading and everything is fine.
Task Manager will report software as having stopped responding when it hasn't achieved something in a given amount of time. That doesn't mean FS actually stops, it does a lot of thinking as it loads information. The more add-on scenery you have installed, the longer time it devotes to this activity. John PS - files like the FS9.cfg are neither on your FS drive nor in your registry and will not be deleted during a straightforward uninstall. This is probably why the problem didn't go away until you reinstalled XP.

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This problem occurs with no addons installed. FS9 runs and loads the flights fine before the update, hangs after installing it. And this is using the same airport KLDJ, same plane(default Cessna), and the same time and season for all the tests. I did delete the FS9 folder that fs9.cfg resides in each time. Is there another place where FS puts files?

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What else does the update modify or replace? I had to re-install, but I forgot to do the 9.1 upgrade before I put back my add-ons. If I do the upgrade now, is there anything that's going to be a problem? Thanks.

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For a while now, I've been noticing misplaced bridges. I decided to re-do the 9.1 install. I'd done it on my previous machine, and then copied over a bunch of files, but not all of them. So, I had an odd mix of things. At first, it would not do the install, claiming it was already there. I removed the 9.1 executable (actually, the 9.1 executable with the no-disk hack) and it still wouldn't do it. Finally, I found the uninstall, ran that, and then was able to do the 9.1 upgrade. I restored the no-disk version and everthing runs fine. But, I still have the misplaced bridges. Is there a way to check what's in there that's causing this problem? Thanks.

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What else does the update modify or replace?
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This problem occurs with no addons installed. FS9 runs and loads the flights fine before the update, hangs after installing it. And this is using the same airport KLDJ, same plane(default Cessna), and the same time and season for all the tests. I did delete the FS9 folder that fs9.cfg resides in each time. Is there another place where FS puts files?
Thats funny because if you installed FS9 and the SP1 using default setting, FS9 should load with default cessna at KSEA. Again there's somehting you're doing wrong because many others would have reported the hanging issue after installing the SP1. I asked that you list out the way you're installing FS9 and SP1. That way we can correct what you're doing wrong.

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Yes, I know that the default flight is KSEA. However, I knew the problem occured at KLDJ, but not only KLDJ, from past installs, so I use that as my test airport to keep things consistant. John, thanks so much for the list of files, that really helped me out. I have been able, in the last few days to install the update manually, without the installer, and everything seems to be fine so far. I can't explain any of it, unless there is something in the installer that MY pc doesn't like. Anyway, for the time being, I have my simulator back!!!! Thanks to all for trying to help me out of this, I do really appreciate it!

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