I just tried the demo of XPlane 10. Graphics are great, but when I tried to load my home airport it said the scenery of EHAM was not installed!!! Is that because it's just a demo or because I still have to buy all scenery or something?

Yes-it is a demo of the Seattle area only-you have to buy the full program for more.

I just got the NGX and already have the B747-400X not to talk about all the scenery I have as well. Yes, I'm staying with FSX for a long time yet. :)Happy landings!Andreu Escuain

I just got the NGX and already have the B747-400X not to talk about all the scenery I have as well. Yes, I'm staying with FSX for a long time yet. :)Happy landings!Andreu Escuain

Isn't that the argument that many FS9 users kept repeating? It is not either/or, you are allowed to have both installed and not be considered a traitor to the human race! If XP10 does some things better then FSX, then I intend to use XP10 when I want to do those things. When MSFlight comes out, I expect to get it too, but I do not expect to uninstall FSX that same day nor do I expect FSX to stay on my machine forever. Use a little common sense now and you will save yourself a lot of hostility down the road.

Isn't that the argument that many FS9 users kept repeating? It is not either/or, you are allowed to have both installed and not be considered a traitor to the human race! If XP10 does some things better then FSX, then I intend to use XP10 when I want to do those things. When MSFlight comes out, I expect to get it too, but I do not expect to uninstall FSX that same day nor do I expect FSX to stay on my machine forever. Use a little common sense now and you will save yourself a lot of hostility down the road.

Paul, you are most welcome to buy all the sims you want (the Train simulator 2012 is one I'm looking at with interest). Did I mention against those who buy other sims or are you full of TNT? I suggest you first read what people say and not go further to what people write/say. "...be considered a traitor to the human race..." What imaginations...! I wouldn't hire you as a translator...

Isn't that the argument that many FS9 users kept repeating? It is not either/or, you are allowed to have both installed and not be considered a traitor to the human race! If XP10 does some things better then FSX, then I intend to use XP10 when I want to do those things. When MSFlight comes out, I expect to get it too, but I do not expect to uninstall FSX that same day nor do I expect FSX to stay on my machine forever. Use a little common sense now and you will save yourself a lot of hostility down the road.

i followed your comments until you started talking about hostilities .. what?

i followed your comments until you started talking about hostilities .. what?

Do you honestly think the FSX vs. XP10, XP10 vs. MS Flight or MSFlight vs. FSX discussions will be any less hostile then the FS9 vs. FSX flame wars were? And they lasted over five years and still go on in some circles. Some people seem to think that knocking other products or the people that use them will somehow make them seem more intelligent, informed and important when in fact it usually shows the exact opposite.

I tried XPlane 10 demo today. First of all I was surprised with the amount of detail in the scenery, lightning system, cool looking runway slope and unsmooth runway surface. But this was actually the only good part...I would normally actually not care about the default airplanes, because I'm only gonna fly PMDG anyway, but the 747 of XPlane is quite bad. For example the flaps, you get set each degree you want, for example flaps 17 or something. Secondly, I found it a VERY unhandy and hard to use programm. First of all I couldn't look around in the cockpit whatsoever using the hat switch on my yoke. I could look around though using the mouse look function, but it was a very unhandy way to do so. Because everytime I set up my view in the VC, disengaged mouse look again, because I wanted my camera to stay in the same place. But in that way, I can't click anything in the VC. So then I had to use mouse look again to point to for example the overhead panel. So I disengaged mouse look again, and it went back to the default view again! So annoying. So everytime I want to click on something on a panel, the camera actually moves with the mouse. Also in options, there seemed to be no way to look around normally, like you can do in FSX using Space + moving your mouse, or using the hat switch on the yoke. You could look left and right though, but these were all pre-setup views. I just want to be able to look around likein FSX! Maybe I'm doing something wrong? Could someone please help me on this? I find the viewing system very inconvenient.And then the flight dynamics. The wind was quite calm, but still it was blowing me from the left to the right, up and down. In the aircraft this doesn't happen at all. Maybe it does happen in small general aviation aircraft, but not this much. And in the 747 it doesn't happen at all especially in these calm conditions.My conclusion:Beautiful graphics, very inconvenient to use compared to FSX.

Do you honestly think the FSX vs. XP10, XP10 vs. MS Flight or MSFlight vs. FSX discussions will be any less hostile then the FS9 vs. FSX flame wars were? And they lasted over five years and still go on in some circles. Some people seem to think that knocking other products or the people that use them will somehow make them seem more intelligent, informed and important when in fact it usually shows the exact opposite.

Paul,the way your note was written ... you would have to be hostile with yourself ...

Paul,the way your note was written ... you would have to be hostile with yourself ...

Isn't that ironic, I am hostile to people who get hostile...

Isn't that ironic, I am hostile to people who get hostile...

funny and deep ...

Isn't that ironic, I am hostile to people who get hostile...

funny and deep ...

khmmm, don't you both think, that this is already "falling out" of the topic?As far as I understand, default planes aren't going to be that much better in Xplane10 than default FSX ones? If that is the case - ahh, whatever! Who fly them anyway?

khmmm, don't you both think, that this is already "falling out" of the topic?As far as I understand, default planes aren't going to be that much better in Xplane10 than default FSX ones? If that is the case - ahh, whatever! Who fly them anyway?

yep, you are right .. this is the first time a thread has fallen out of topic

I must say I am dissapointed. The graphics, well the scenery is ok but even with AA it still seems very pixelated. I must admit though the neighbourhoods are very nice. And I do like the runway how it is sloped but I dont think that a Boeing 747 really jumps around quite like it did when i was trying to takeoff. Also find the menus very hard to navigate but that is probably because I am so used to FSX. For now, I will be sticking to MSFS. I dont care if its so realistic, if I look at the graphics and cant enjoy what I am doing, whats the point?

Very nice scenery! but the VC graphics are terrible! the flying characteristics too...before those two are solved...I'm not interested!