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Building a Sim pit for the NGX. A few questions

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Hi guys,I would like to display the gages on a seperate monitor(s) but I dont know what is available or how to do it,My goal is to only have the scenery on the main screen and have the inside of the cockpit on other screens (hope this makes sence) inside my pit. I know the HUD will be impossible to do but I can do without it until solution comes up.Can anyone point me in the right direction to get started?Thanks


Chris Verner

 

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We where just discussing something alone that line over here....http://forum.avsim.n...-overhead-view/It sure can be done, but you have a lot of reading, research, learning, trial and error ahead of you.I don't even know where to start. Maybe you should begin by learning the "panel.cfg" file inside and out....http://msdn.microsof...y/cc526956.aspx


Jim Cranford

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Hello,Actually, it's pretty easy: Win7 or even XP supports multiple monitor set up.you need a computer with multiple Pci_e x16 slots and a couple of compatible grapic cards.In the panel config (C:FSXSimObjectsAirplanesPMDG 737-800NGXpanel) you can make pop-up windows yourself by first adding windows in the [Window Titles][Window Titles]Window00=Main PanelWindow01=Lower MainWindow02=CDU (Left)Window03=Aft Electronic PanelWindow04=Fire ProtectionWindow05=Forward OverheadWindow06=Aft OverheadWindow07=Overhead LightsWindow08=Lower DUWindow09=MCP (full)Window10=RadiosWindow11=Zoomed Left Outboard DUWindow12=Zoomed Left Inboard DUWindow13=Zoomed Upper DUWindow14=Zoomed Lower DUWindow15=Zoomed Right Inboard DUWindow16=Zoomed Right Outboard DUWindow17=CDU (Right)Window18=MinipanelWindow19=Light SensorWindow20=LogicWindow21=MiddleWindow22=CaptainWindow23=Overheadwindows 21, 22, 23 are added by myselfthen create windows like:[Window23]Background_color=100,100,100size_mm=1092,1704position=4visible=1ident=452zorder=98gauge00=PMDG_737NGX!BottomAftOvhd, 0,488,1095,97gauge01=PMDG_737NGX!FltRec_Warning, 850,1,245,487gauge02=PMDG_737NGX!ServiceInterphone, 484,0,121,487gauge03=PMDG_737NGX!EngineControl, 608,246,242,113gauge04=PMDG_737NGX!AudioControlOVHD, 608,0,242,247gauge05=PMDG_737NGX!Oxygen, 608,360,242,128gauge06=PMDG_737NGX!LEDevices, 0,0,243,488gauge07=PMDG_737NGX!ISDU, 243,0,240,488gauge08=PMDG_737NGX!FlightControls, -1,586,249,348gauge09=PMDG_737NGX!NavDisp, -1,935,249,255gauge10=PMDG_737NGX!Fuel, -1,1191,249,371gauge11=PMDG_737NGX!Electric, 249,586,241,976gauge12=PMDG_737NGX!OvhdCtr, 491,586,115,976gauge13=PMDG_737NGX!AntiIce, 607,586,237,394gauge14=PMDG_737NGX!Hydraulics, 607, 981 ,237,145gauge15=PMDG_737NGX!Doors, 607,1127,237,96gauge16=PMDG_737NGX!CVR, 607,1224,237,90gauge17=PMDG_737NGX!CabinAltPanel, 607,1315,237,247gauge18=PMDG_737NGX!Lights, -1,1563,1097,147gauge19=PMDG_737NGX!CabinPress, 845,1253,250,309gauge20=PMDG_737NGX!BleedAir, 845,935,250,317gauge21=PMDG_737NGX!AirCond, 845,586,250,348the first "gauge" thing is just numbering of the gauges. They all should be unique.Then the gauge you are referring to. example: PMDG_737NGX!BleedAir is the gauge you want from the PMFD gauge databaseThen: 845,586,250,348 the first: x-position on the panel. second: y-position, third x-size, fourth y-size.I could have mixed up x and y. If you play around a little bit with it, you'll see it yourself.Each time you change the .cfg file, you have to end your flight and restart it. Pick the window you added in the VIEW window in FSX.If you need more help, I'll try to.This is the Micorsoft explanation of it:http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc526956.aspxmy rig as it used to be for FS9. (For FSX I had to disable the left screen because of CTD's.)

at 1:38 and so on.Bert Van Bulck.

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I did some work on this yesterday, and got all the gauges working.ngx2Kopier.jpg[Window Titles]window00=Main Panelwindow01=Lower Mainwindow02=CDU (Left)window03=Aft Electronic Panelwindow04=Fire Protectionwindow05=Forward Overheadwindow06=Aft Overheadwindow07=Overhead Lightswindow08=Lower DUwindow09=MCP (full)window10=Radioswindow11=Zoomed Left Outboard DUwindow12=Zoomed Left Inboard DUwindow13=Zoomed Upper DUwindow14=Zoomed Lower DUwindow15=Zoomed Right Inboard DUwindow16=Zoomed Right Outboard DUwindow17=CDU (Right)window18=Minipanelwindow19=Light Sensorwindow20=Logicwindow21=HUD // added by IvarWindow22=CPT chrono // added by Ivarwindow23=FO chrono // added by Ivarwindow24=ISFD // added by Ivar Now I have also placed three undocked views angled to a total of 205 degrees FOV there. But the trick I used with the default -800 to remove the interior didnt seem to work for the NGX. I inserted "//" in front of "interior=PMDG_737_800_VC, and also in front of normal=PMDG_737_800, but it didnt do anything useful.I have also changed the background colour to 0,0,1 which means black. But for the DU`s, they still have the blue background colour. Not sure if they can be edited to be black, as I would rather add the blueish colour with proper anti-glare glass in front of the displays.For the HUD... if you set colour to 0,0,0 it will be no black around the HUD, and it can be overlayed on the visuals if neccessary.cool.png


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Here the "windows" I added...//// Ivars modification for HUD//[Window21]BACKGROUND_COLOR=0,0,1size_mm=800, 600position=1visible=1nomenu=0ident=HUDalpha_blend=1.0zorder=90gauge00=hud!hud, 0, 0, 900, 768//// Ivars modification for CPT chronometer//[Window22]BACKGROUND_COLOR=0,0,1size_mm=512, 256position=1visible=1nomenu=0ident=CPT chronozorder=90gauge00=PMDG_737NGX!Chrono_Screen, 0, 0, 256, 256//// Ivars modification for FO chronometer//[Window23]BACKGROUND_COLOR=0,0,1size_mm=512, 256position=1visible=1nomenu=0ident=FO chronozorder=90gauge01=PMDG_737NGX!Chrono_Screen, 256, 0, 256, 256//// Ivars modification for ISFD//[Window24]BACKGROUND_COLOR=0,0,1size_mm=512, 256position=2visible=1nomenu=0ident=ISISzorder=90gauge00=PMDG_737NGX!ISFD, 0, 0, 256, 256


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Thanks guys!This is really awsome info. I'll start playing around with his over the weekend and see how it turns out. I'll keep you posted on the progress.Thanks again


Chris Verner

 

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This is what I have set up with the NGX. Works like a charm! There are a few choices out there to use with your sim pit but nothing is quite as good as the NGX.300449_10150348747600916_507550915_8580878_1970617658_n.jpgGreg Keath

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That's awsome Greg!What you have is exactly what I'm going for. Can you tell me how many monitors you are using? From what i'm seeing, i'm thinking 4 but it's hard to tell in the darkness. Also, How did you solve the OH panel? I'm still trying to figure out that one. I was thinking of a touch screen 22" or bigger.Thanks


Chris Verner

 

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I'm using 4 monitors and one projector at the moment. Sorry the picture quality is not so good. I took it with my phone. I currently dont have an overhead panel but I believe I have it sorted out. I'm using flight deck solutions for interfacing. I will be using fsuipc mouse macro's to flip switches along side with pro sim for annouciator logic. I have ran a few test's and it works very well. This project is low buget. I have made everything by hand, but if you have patience and drive it pays off in the end.Greg Keath

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Thanks guys!This is really awsome info. I'll start playing around with his over the weekend and see how it turns out. I'll keep you posted on the progress.Thanks again
Don't forget to backup your original . cfg Yawn.gifBert Van Bulck

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I have successfully removed the CDU bezels also now. It was not so difficult, but some play with the numbers is neccessary.If you also want to have the DU`s moveable with a mouse without them going back to the "MIP", then make a new window for them, and play with the numbers as I did with the CDU.Here is my CDU modifications with a few comments.//// CDU (Left)//[Window02]BACKGROUND_COLOR=0,0,1 //R,G,B doesnt seem to do anything on the CDU or DU`s...size_mm=268,222 //From left, from top screen sizewindow_size= 0.20052, 0.50000position=8visible=0ident=402zorder=99gauge00=PMDG_737NGX!CDU, -60,-42,385,600,L #0 //By pulling numbers to minus, the bezel will be outside the "screen area". //From left, from top, total size from left, total size from top.PerfectKopier2.jpg


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Not the 737 but here's one I did on the MD11 to give you idea of what can be done if you wanted to go this route.2dCockpit.jpg


Jim Cranford

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If you can go "all out" - http://www.flightdecksolutions.com/ (yeah, we can dream, right?!) and also their new much more affordable JetMax line - http://www.jetmax.ca/ They are looking at NGX compatibility.
I've been keeping an eye out on the flightdeck solutions hardware but even the Jetmax is wayyyyyyyy to expensive. Almost 9000$ if you want a "almost" complete kit. I'd rather buy an Ultralight "real" aircraft instead of buying that. I like Gerg's setup alot more in that regard.As far as hardware goes, i'm gonna go with the VRinsight MCP combo II and the FMC for now. I already have my Yoke, TQ and rudder pedals from Saitek so will be using that. I may go with a real OH panel at some point but but that's also very expensive. Might be my only Flightdeck solutions purchase but that will be in a few years. For now, I'll keep the OH on a seperate monitor. I think I will be getting the MCP combo II for Xmas from my wife (hooooo yeah!) and my next purchase will be extra video cards and monitors. That's my starting point.Thanks guys! I realy appreciate your help and I think that others who will be building a simpit with the NGX will also benefith from this thread.

Chris Verner

 

Home cockpit builder ...well trying anyway

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