December 23, 201114 yr Commercial Member Hi everyone,As we all know, the new and very sexy ASE2012 is out, and if it's not a hot-topic now, it probably will be.I'd like to start up an open discussion to find out how and what is the best way to configure ASE2012 over a network? The ASE2012 document / guide i feel is ambiguous - and doesnt clearly highlight what and where we need to do, or what todo step by step... eg, install SP1a and SP2 for SDK..etc...which im reading this can cause CTD's later on in flight? Also, the simconnect.xml can be located, but the simconnect.ini cant be located, so wondering does this come from SDK installs or from FSUIPC?When installing ASE2012, how do we get this to interract with the PC with FSX on it? EG: How do we find the domain IP so we can write this in to the simconnect. xml if im right?More questions around process and what the steps are to getting ASE to talk to FSX...so far, my attempts are not showing anything other than FSX: Disconnected....etc...Any help would be greatfully appreciated.Darryl
December 23, 201114 yr Hi Darryl,The first thing you need to do is make sure that SimConnect is working properly before attempting AS2012.Can you confirm that SimConnect is properly configured and that when you run the TrafficAI tool it confirms Simconnect is working?See the following link from the HiFi knowledge base: http://support.hifitechinc.com/Knowledgebase/Article/View/6/0/networked-configuration-with-simconnectRegards, VATSIM: P2 | I1
December 23, 201114 yr Author Commercial Member hi there, thanks for coming back to me so quickly - i have the exact doc in pdf and have followed it to the T - so far, i feer there is some ambiguity, as it talks about copying simconnect after sp1a to the client pc, but where do the files then go?also, i come across this section after installing SDK...ApplicationDataFolder]MicrosoftFSXSimConnect.xml[MyDocumentsFolder]Flight Simulator X FilesSimConnect.inibut, the highlighted part is the one i cant seem to find, even after an install, simconnect.ini is not in the folder where the above link suggests.Any ideas?Perhaps this is the reason why its not working?Ive followed all the steps with sharing ALL folders, thats all fine, and showing in the network.Install of ASE2012 on client pc and all folders are located, when starting up ase2012, it connects via simmconnect etc...but fsx: disconnected never changes...is there supposed to be any simconnect modules inside fsx folders to find the program?thats where im confused?Also, not tested the AI from the simconnect, i dont think it would work, as the data i have on the xml prob isnt right.if you have this set up or it works for you, let me know how you got this to work eg do i use the ip address thats for one pc in all simconnect.xml's or change the values to each corresponding pc - eg Client PC simconnect.xml - do i have the client IP address in this doc or the clients ...and vice a ver sad
December 23, 201114 yr Author Commercial Member Also, if anyone knows how to set this thing up, and would be willing to teamview with me, im willing to learn, so i can help many more folk out there, who probably are struggling. Any takers!? lol
December 23, 201114 yr hi there, thanks for coming back to me so quickly - i have the exact doc in pdf and have followed it to the T - so far, i feer there is some ambiguity, as it talks about copying simconnect after sp1a to the client pc, but where do the files then go?also, i come across this section after installing SDK...ApplicationDataFolder]MicrosoftFSXSimConnect.xml[MyDocumentsFolder]Flight Simulator X FilesSimConnect.inibut, the highlighted part is the one i cant seem to find, even after an install, simconnect.ini is not in the folder where the above link suggests.Any ideas?Perhaps this is the reason why its not working?Ive followed all the steps with sharing ALL folders, thats all fine, and showing in the network.Install of ASE2012 on client pc and all folders are located, when starting up ase2012, it connects via simmconnect etc...but fsx: disconnected never changes...is there supposed to be any simconnect modules inside fsx folders to find the program?thats where im confused?Also, not tested the AI from the simconnect, i dont think it would work, as the data i have on the xml prob isnt right.if you have this set up or it works for you, let me know how you got this to work eg do i use the ip address thats for one pc in all simconnect.xml's or change the values to each corresponding pc - eg Client PC simconnect.xml - do i have the client IP address in this doc or the clients ...and vice a ver sadDarryl,How well did you read the Networked Configuration document?There are example files located in your FSX SDK installation folder (normally C:Program FilesMicrosoftGamesFlight Simulator X SDKSDKCore UtilitiesSimConnect SDKconfig). We suggest copying these files to the appropriate locations and then modifying as follows:Did you copy the SimConnect.ini file from the above listed location to [MyDocumentsFolder]Flight Simulator X FilesI am a bit confused as to how you followed the document to a "T" yet you cannot locate a file on the Server PC that requires modification per the document? The only computer that has the file SimConnect.xml should be your Server (The PC that has FSX installed). Your Client PC should have the file SimConnect.cfg installed to [MyDocumentsFolder]Please do not take this the wrong way, but go back and take your time to read the document and ask questions on any steps you do not understand.Regards,Bob
December 23, 201114 yr Author Commercial Member Hi Bob, thanks for the above, i appreciate you spending some time on this.Your comments are fair, and perhaps i didnt spend enought time thinking this thing through - I will revisit this now and let ya know which step im failing at. One question about the below: When it shows the SERVER details as example below, with the IP suggestive - where do i find the IP address for my for my server...Under: NETWORK SHARING CENTRE - LOCAL AREA connection - NETWORK CONNECTION DETAILS ...there's many in there, such as IPv4 Address and IPv4 DHCP Server address etc...which one do i use ? ( and these are taken from the server right?_SimConnect.xml: The values for Protocol, Address and Port must be modified. The other values should be left default. For Protocol, IPv4 should be used. Example: <Protocol>IPv4</Protocol> For Address, use either the computer name or the physical IP address of this SERVER. Example: <Address>192.168.1.102</Address> One final question on installation of FSX Deluxe - after installation do i installFSX SP1 and SP2 and then SDK or SDK SP1Aor go straight in to SDK after install and then SP1A...the doc wasnt quite clear and i noticed the version numbers were out when i did sp1a ..etc...
December 24, 201114 yr Darryl:To find the IP address your server is using, open the command propt in Windows (under accessories) and type 'ipconfig' without the quotes. In the first block of information you should see your IP address (for example: IPv4 Address..............: 192.168.1.73).In the Simconnect.xml, you will edit the block beginning with " <!-- Example Global (remote) IPv4 Server Configuration--> ". See mine below:<!-- Example Global (remote) IPv4 Server Configuration--> <SimConnect.Comm> <Disabled>False</Disabled> <Protocol>IPv4</Protocol> <Scope>global</Scope> <MaxClients>64</MaxClients> <Address>192.168.1.73</Address> <Port>500</Port> </SimConnect.Comm>In the lines highlighted in red, enter the IP address as you have seen in the ipconfig step, then enter the port you assigned for simconnect to use (in my case I went with the suggested 500).As far as the SDK, first install the SDK that came with the FSX Deluxe DVD, the install the service packs for it. You can find SP1A here, and SP2 here.Hope this helps. If you haven't setup networking before it may seem daunting, but is actually not that bad once you have done it once or twice. You'll be happy you did it, though, as the performance benefit is worth the setup. Tim Hughes
December 24, 201114 yr Tim if I may, I have the same problem as Darryl and have 2 questions;1: when the document says to test the config with AI trafffic from sdk, is it on client or server ? when i test on server(FSX pc) it says connect to fsx but not on the client (were AS2012 is installed), is that normal ?2: document says to put Simconnect.cfg in C:Users[uSERNAME]Documents on the client pc, I just drop it there, not in a seperate folder inside My Documents like Simconnect.ini that goes into C:Users[uSERNAME]DocumentsFlight Simulator X Files on the server right ?thank you in advanceAlain from Montreal
December 24, 201114 yr Hi everyone,As we all know, the new and very sexy ASE2012 is out, and if it's not a hot-topic now, it probably will be.I'd like to start up an open discussion to find out how and what is the best way to configure ASE2012 over a network? The ASE2012 document / guide i feel is ambiguous - and doesnt clearly highlight what and where we need to do, or what todo step by step... eg, install SP1a and SP2 for SDK..etc...which im reading this can cause CTD's later on in flight? Also, the simconnect.xml can be located, but the simconnect.ini cant be located, so wondering does this come from SDK installs or from FSUIPC?When installing ASE2012, how do we get this to interract with the PC with FSX on it? EG: How do we find the domain IP so we can write this in to the simconnect. xml if im right?More questions around process and what the steps are to getting ASE to talk to FSX...so far, my attempts are not showing anything other than FSX: Disconnected....etc...Any help would be greatfully appreciated.DarrylHelloAs2012 is set up exactly the same as ASE as far as networking is conserned and in my opinion the ASE documentation is one of the clearest I have seen conserning setting up Simconnect.I do not see how you can say it is ambiguous, I just followed it step by step and it just worked.
December 24, 201114 yr Well Mad Dog, I am really happy for you but this is not the case on my end.... English is my second language and maybe that does not help, neither is your comment....I tried using ASE in network in the past and didn't succeed, the reason why I tried again with AS2012 is that it doesn't work on my FSX pc http://forum.avsim.net/topic/357396-problem-root-element-missing-on-startup/ so I decided to give networking another try.Happy holidays to you none the less Alain from Montreal
December 24, 201114 yr Tim if I may, I have the same problem as Darryl and have 2 questions;1: when the document says to test the config with AI trafffic from sdk, is it on client or server ? when i test on server(FSX pc) it says connect to fsx but not on the client (were AS2012 is installed), is that normal ?2: document says to put Simconnect.cfg in C:Users[uSERNAME]Documents on the client pc, I just drop it there, not in a seperate folder inside My Documents like Simconnect.ini that goes into C:Users[uSERNAME]DocumentsFlight Simulator X Files on the server right ?thank you in advanceAlain from MontrealAlain:1. Start FSX on the server, then run AI Traffic on the client PC. You should get a DOS window on the client that says 'Connected to Flight Simulator!' if the configuration is correct.2. Correct! Tim Hughes
December 24, 201114 yr Author Commercial Member HI "tohughes76" - thanks for the above, it's becomming clearer, but one question:when i type in those digits on the Simconnect.cfg - on the SERVER, do i use that SAME config on the CLIENT PC, eg, the same ip and port numbers , or do i need to change the IP on the CLIENT to the IP on that pc (ie: different from the one on server)also, when i installed sp1a, i stopped there, was i meant to install sp2 for for sdk also? When i installed sp1a, it removes the GMAX folder from SDK and i dont find all the simconnect.xml and ini files that it says should be in the folders where its supposed to be, perhaps I am doing a step wrong?I install FSXThen i install SP1Then I install SP2Then i install SDK - Then i install SP1a - then, it all goes '** up' from there...
December 24, 201114 yr Tim, thank you for answering;When I try AiTraffic on client pc, the dos box shows and goes off right away so something is not configure correctly, :Straight Face:Will restart all files and report back...Alain from Montreal
December 24, 201114 yr Author Commercial Member Also, simconnect.xml and simconnect.ini - where are they and what do they look like? i dont have them in the app data folders and mydoc folders it suggests? should i be installing some other files to get the simconnect...even after sdk install...i dont understand why i dont see the simconnect files, after a sdk install, the only files i see are in ms fsx sdk folder, where theyre templates i think...should i copy those in to the respective folders, or can this be done and modified accordingly?agh man - this is frustrating, listen - to all thats helping on this post, i appreciate your help on this, i can appreciate your frustrations also, when explaining, please know i am really trying to understand this, and even though it easy for some , its not always easy for others. Please be patient with our questions, i know some seem out there, and as though we have read the manual, but i can assure you thats not the case, i just need some extra clarity on how this whole setup works. thanks to eveyrone helping in this post. ds
December 24, 201114 yr HI "tohughes76" - thanks for the above, it's becomming clearer, but one question:when i type in those digits on the Simconnect.cfg - on the SERVER, do i use that SAME config on the CLIENT PC, eg, the same ip and port numbers , or do i need to change the IP on the CLIENT to the IP on that pc (ie: different from the one on server)also, when i installed sp1a, i stopped there, was i meant to install sp2 for for sdk also? When i installed sp1a, it removes the GMAX folder from SDK and i dont find all the simconnect.xml and ini files that it says should be in the folders where its supposed to be, perhaps I am doing a step wrong?I install FSXThen i install SP1Then I install SP2Then i install SDK - Then i install SP1a - then, it all goes '** up' from there... Darryl:The values that you put in for IP and Port in the server's Simmconnect.xml will be the same ones you plug into the client's Simconnect.cfg.As far as the SDK is concerned, on my machine using the SDK SP2 the files are located-SimConnect.cfg - C:Program Files (x86)Microsoft GamesMicrosoft Flight Simulator X SDKSDKCore Utilities KitSimConnect SDKconfigSimConnect.msi- C:Program Files (x86)Microsoft GamesMicrosoft Flight Simulator X SDKSDKCore Utilities KitSimConnect SDKlibSimConnect.xml- C:UsersTimAppDataRoamingMicrosoftFSXSimConnect.ini- C:UsersTimDocumentsFlight Simulator X FilesIf you can't locate your files in SP1a using these folders, try installing SP2 and looking again...can't hurt.Also, simconnect.xml and simconnect.ini - where are they and what do they look like? i dont have them in the app data folders and mydoc folders it suggests? should i be installing some other files to get the simconnect...even after sdk install...i dont understand why i dont see the simconnect files, after a sdk install, the only files i see are in ms fsx sdk folder, where theyre templates i think...should i copy those in to the respective folders, or can this be done and modified accordingly?agh man - this is frustrating, listen - to all thats helping on this post, i appreciate your help on this, i can appreciate your frustrations also, when explaining, please know i am really trying to understand this, and even though it easy for some , its not always easy for others. Please be patient with our questions, i know some seem out there, and as though we have read the manual, but i can assure you thats not the case, i just need some extra clarity on how this whole setup works. thanks to eveyrone helping in this post. dsDarryl, are you running Windows XP, Vista, or Win7? Tim Hughes
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