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Navdata in the ARINC 424 Format - Still planned?

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How much money are we talking about? Depending on the yearly subscription price, I believe there would be demand between NGX users to have actual RW data onboard their addons. Of course, nothing absurd, if they're asking for 300 dollars each user then there's no place for Simmers using this database.
FAR more than that. Navdata is a hundred+ million dollar industry in the real world. Jeppesen and the like are huge companies. Simmers buying actual real-life FMC navdata subscriptions is not going to happen, way too expensive.

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FAR more than that. Navdata is a hundred+ million dollar industry in the real world. Jeppesen and the like are huge companies. Simmers buying actual real-life FMC navdata subscriptions is not going to happen, way too expensive.
I understand. Well, if it's that expensive, and they refuse to see the FS market as a potencial way to sell more, even if at a lower price, then there's no easy way around this.NaviGraph probably gets their data from an ARINC 424 source, right? Why don't you work with them to let them offer their original file to work with the addon, instead of the conversion that all current addons have to do? I don't have experience about this subject, maybe that's a stupid idea

Alexis Mefano

What is it then what Navigraph buys (and converts and resells)?

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FAR more than that. Navdata is a hundred+ million dollar industry in the real world. Jeppesen and the like are huge companies. Simmers buying actual real-life FMC navdata subscriptions is not going to happen, way too expensive.
Here's just one real-world number. Consider that a Jepp subscription just for electronic charts just for the US just for one year is $787. Check their site for other areas of the world you might want to fly in. Well worth it if your life depends on it as in real life. But for a hobby, just too much for my blood.

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Herman Ross

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Gents-Through our friends at Boeing we have made some interesting contacts with the fine folks at Jeppesen. This is an ongoing conversation, but I am not going to share any information regarding the conversation because it could go in any of two million different directions right now.Suffice to say: I'm one of the biggest fans of Jeppesen- and if there is a way to make an economically feasible process here- we will do it.We're getting closer tho- we're only a few million dollars apart at the moment- but I've closed deals with bigger splits. :(

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Gents-Through our friends at Boeing we have made some interesting contacts with the fine folks at Jeppesen. This is an ongoing conversation, but I am not going to share any information regarding the conversation because it could go in any of two million different directions right now.Suffice to say: I'm one of the biggest fans of Jeppesen- and if there is a way to make an economically feasible process here- we will do it.We're getting closer tho- we're only a few million dollars apart at the moment- but I've closed deals with bigger splits. :(
Thank you for letting us know about this. There's hope then! We're all big fans of Jeppesen, they make the best charts, and having their data inside the 737NGX's CDU would be so beautiful people would cry of joy :LMAO:Good luck negotiating with them!

Alexis Mefano

they make the best charts,
Here I beg to differ. But don't tell them, wouldn't want to make them angry at this point :)

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Here I beg to differ. But don't tell them, wouldn't want to make them angry at this point :)
At least it's certainly better than Brazilian official ones. But I've seen some pretty good ones from Europe, maybe that's why you're saying this.You're right! For all purposes, they're the best at everything they do! :(

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Alexis Mefano

Actually I am talking about the other "big" vendors with worldwide/networkwide coverage, like LIDO (click on Chart Samples) or Navtech.AIP charts are, well... quality varies, and what is really important for an airline (in AD charts, in ENR there are other problems), the make itself varies. No time to wonder if the green line in Germany means the same as green line in Austria, when you have CTOT in 2 minutes and need to get off the apron pronto

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I guess nothing has happened...

Alexis Mefano

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No change in the status of the issue unfortunately. I would not hold my breath on this happening soon. We're planning to keep the same navdata format for the 777 currently.

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No change in the status of the issue unfortunately. I would not hold my breath on this happening soon. We're planning to keep the same navdata format for the 777 currently.

 

Now that aerosoft will be using LIDO to provide NAVDATA, can we assume this would be what the NGX needs for RF legs?

Cameron Lett :)

i dont know what the problem is. As far as i could read, they will publish it in PMDG format as well so you will have the same data available. (somewhere in the aerosoft forum, you can find out, that it will be 100% PMDG compatible -> and the only way to do so is to keep PMDG format, right?)

Tebin Ulrich

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