Hello!I recently did a flight into Aspen and when I selected the arrivals for kase, there is no approach to select. Is it possible for me to somehow edit the arrival info in order to include the loc dme rwy 15 approach?Thanks

Possible? Yes. Legal (in the real world sense of flying)? No.The reason I added in "the real world sense" is that if it's not in the database, you may not manually enter the approach information as a substitute. You may, however, fly the approach using the radios and the FMC as an aid to situational awareness.In the sim? You can do what you want in the plane.In order to add it into the database, you'd have to find the airport's file in the NavData folder and make the appropriate edits there. My best recommendation is look at an existing LOC approach as a template and create the LOC/DME that way.It's the LOC/DME-E by the way: http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/1113/05889LDE.PDF

Thanks. I have the chart for the loc dme rwy 15. Looks similar to the pdf you posted. I have messed with the file in the pmdg arrivals folder and it didnt work very well. Looks easy just time consuming. I will keep working on it. I have never fooled around with the navdata before.

Edited January 4, 201214 yr by fosl

Here is a picture of the approach chart for loc dme 15.

That chart's expired. It must've been the LOC/DME 15 before, but the name changed when it got updated in the last few cycles.

Hope not! I did jepp revisions just last night. The airport diagram updated to include the runway extension but the above chart is current.

Instead of editing the navdata file you could just punch the waypoints and crossing restrictions into the FMC, or just fly the approach the old fashioned way using raw data, without the box doing all the thinking for you. Challenging at first, but oh so rewarding when you get it right.

Here is the most Current Chart.http://204.108.4.16/...13/05889LDE.PDF

Edited January 4, 201214 yr by UAL115

You're right. I forgot the Jepps show the print date, and not an expiration, so the 11Nov11 threw me. Not sure why the FAA DB would show it as a -E and not as LOC/DME 15, though. I mean, unless you're flying something pretty small, with weather on the higher side, you're not going to circle to land on 33.Even the FIXES are different on the NACO chart...

As Mr. Pascoe suggests I can manually type the waypoints individually and enter constraints or better yet just use raw data. But I would like to be able to line select the approach!

As Mr. Pascoe suggests I can manually type the waypoints individually and enter constraints or better yet just use raw data. But I would like to be able to line select the approach!

Then contact Navigraph and get them to fix it cause it's not PMDG's problem or concern.http://www.navigraph...www/support.asp

Edited January 4, 201214 yr by UAL115

You may, however, fly the approach using the radios and the FMC as an aid to situational awareness.

Not legally in a 737NG. Aircraft with a wing span greater than 95 feet are prohibited from landing at KASE. Classics (-100 thru -500), excepting the -300 with winglets, can still sneak in. This limitation may also be why Navigraph didn't include the approaches in the NG nav data.

LOC/DME Runway 15 approach at ASE is a Special Procedure that is not publicly available. Therefore, you won't find it in the standard US Government TPP book or the Jeppesen service. Approved operators can obtain the chart from Jeppesen. It may be included in the standard nav-database, depending on FMS/GPS system, or it may be included as an additional item in a tailored nav-database for the operator. The operator requires FAA approval, special training, and currency qualfications to use the approach.You should be able to add the procedure the KASE procedure text file in the SID/STAR folder, if the process is still the same as with the other PMDG products. Is it???Rich Boll

Not legally in a 737NG. Aircraft with a wing span greater than 95 feet are prohibited from landing at KASE. Classics (-100 thru -500), excepting the -300 with winglets, can still sneak in. This limitation may also be why Navigraph didn't include the approaches in the NG nav data.

Well but does JS41 not use the same database? That is most certainly under 95ft span...

I asked this awhile ago at navigraph, it was explained to me that their data provider will only include approach data that is runway specific though this approach may in the past been a loc/dme 15 approach it is now a LOC/DME - E and will not be included in any data cycles.