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Big difference in economy?!

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Hey guys,I´ve just made my flight back from Denver to Portland on a 737-900WL. It was pretty the same routing as the one before from Portland to Denver. I configured the plane correctly but it gave me an optimum flight level of only FL375 whereas I flew the other one at FL380. When I attempted to put in FL380 as cruise flight level, it refused and said that it´s unarchievable. But we had an cruise flight of arround 650 MN, so why isn´t it archievale?Would these additional 1000ft make a that big difference in economy?Can someone clear that up?

Best regards, Steffen

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Fight time: NGX 737-700: 37,0h; -800: 47,2h

Upwind vs downwind perhaps?

Kevin M. Manley

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Upwind vs downwind perhaps?
Hmm, yeah, if I recall correctly, I had a pretty stiff headwind on the flight back to Portland.

Best regards, Steffen

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Fight time: NGX 737-700: 37,0h; -800: 47,2h

Nomally this shouldn't be a problem. Something must have been different than on the flight befor. Have you checked you load? If you have a 1000kg more fuel (or passengers or cargo) onboard it is likely that you max altitude will be reduced.

Greetings from the 737 flightdeck!

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Well, the fuel was the same (23.400lb) but I changed the payload. I didn´t know that this would have a that big influence.

Best regards, Steffen

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Fight time: NGX 737-700: 37,0h; -800: 47,2h

It would, also, the length of the sector would not. OPT and MAX levels are a function of weight. TRIP level IIRC is what FMC would suggest to be the most optimal throughout the flight (and will be higher than initial OPT often).In your case I guess you were just simply too heavy for 380, although that seems a bit strange if OPT was 375. Are you sure it was not MAX that was 375?

--Peter Fabian 
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The weight of the plane is mainly what determines the maximum cruise altitude

Johan Pettersen

For the 737 even 2,000-3,000 kg (5,000-6,000 lbs) make difference. Put 5 tons plus, that's almost 10% of the MTO weight...Maybe you can look into some of the FSX flight planner tools (TOPCAT etc.), they will give you a very good idea about the matter.

 

Regards,

Martin Martinov / VATSIM 1207931

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