Hi all. I recently got back into simming and decided to give fsx a try since all I flew was fs9. I used to be an nvidia guy until someone told me to try AMD and so i went and bought myself the Sapphire radeon hd 6950 2GB. Now When i installed fsx and ran it in my previous system it wouldn't run good with AS2012 using the leveld. My frames would be lower than 20 When starting off at KSEA at night. Ngx swallowed the frames when i tried it. So i decided to get a better cpu. I went from a q9550(overclocked to 3.8ghz) to a 2500k at 4.5ghz. 2x4gb ddr3 1600, a z68 asus mobo and an ssd. I installed my os and fsx to the ssd and still Im not getting decent performance. Can someone posts their sliders settings as well as ccc settings? I use radeon pro which is pretty much like nvidia inspector and have tried the ccc as well. I find the process of getting fsx to run smooth at a decent quality so frustrating. I've tried different tweaks, from bojotes as well as other member who tried to help me. Maybe Im doing something wrong i don't know. But i think i have a pretty high end system to run any game at max in my 1920x1080 asus led lcd. And also as the op says, Im also interested about the performance of the latest AMD card. My friend is going to lend me his asus gtx 580 soon to see if i notice difference. Now what my next trial will be is installing fsx in a raid0 array i have separate and see. One more thing, my 6950 has the shaders unlocked to that of a 6970 however it is not running 6970 speeds. Thank you all for a great source of information these forums are and long live flight simulation. I love flying as thats what i took for a career and also love flight sims. Thank you. Sent from my SGH-I727R using Tapatalk

Edited February 15, 201214 yr by Dash8Q4

Hi guys just about to buy a new gpu i had a ati 5970 and it wasnt very good for fsx, what do you guys reakon a gtx580 for fsx and in sli for bf3 etc or a ati 7970? i think its a single core gpu at 1000mhz would be nice for fsx or crossfire for bf3?ThanksAndrew

Hi Andrew, at the moment if you are thinking about the two GPUs then IMHO I'd wait to get feedback and read some reviews about the 7970, then make your decision, which appears to be what everyone else is doing!

Edited February 20, 201214 yr by Rockliffe

As an nVidia user of over ten years, until July last year, I was shocked by the vast gap in IQ between nV and AMD... when my PC turned-up with the wrong card I was dismayed, until I launched FSX and saw it with a clarity I had not seen before. Rather than ditching the AMD card I upgraded to a better one (HD6950 2GB) and am not looking to change back any time soon, despite suffering some serious driver issues with some other games [now resolved]I don't suffer any performance issues with complex cloud layers either, and I love my clouds... And I absolutely do not see worse performance than a mates 560ti specced machine, but it does look far better.I run 8xAA with Supersampling, to keep all the edges clean.If money were no object I would jump on an 7970 for FSX and other games... no question.

Redline...OK.. Now I am really confused... in another thread here where I asked about the cards for a 3 monitor setup an AMD person specificially mentioned that the AMD card does not do clouds well... And that the card was very good provided there were minimal clouds.I love to fly IFR and plenty of clouds so I had basically scratched off AMD cards.. Now here you are saying that clouds are just fine.Would you please be kind enough to do lots of clouds and give us a feed back please? Do you use any addos for clouds like REX? if so how do they look? Some screen shots would really help.I really wish its true that the AMD cards displays clouds as good as nvidea.,. if it does I'd switch nVidea in a heartbeat. nVidea has also let us down by not having more than 2 monitor out in a single non SLI card (590s don't count as a single card).Aside:This reminds of of a joke from an old "Sad Sack" comics. The sarge visits Sad sack and asks for the time.. Sad Sack gives him the time but the Sarge asks Sad Sack how can he so sure that the clock is right. The next day, Sad Sack goes and buys another clock. This time, Sarge comes to his room again and now asks Sad Sack how he can be sure which clock is right. Sad Sack is now goes to town to buy yet another clock.:)

Edited February 20, 201214 yr by Manny

I can confirm that with my otherwise awesome Asus HD 6970 Direct CU II (in modern games) with 3 x screen Eyfinity - the performance with overcast clouds in FSX just simply sucks!No matter if you use size 1024 and DX5 optimized, REX or AS 2012 (have them both) - it is still terrible, sadly...

Edited February 20, 201214 yr by Tor

My screen set-up is very modest, compared to the above... being a single monitor at 1680x1050 8xaa + Supersampling through RadeonPro. I ran a comparison over Orbx NZSI with max visual setting, coupled with low AI.With no clouds @ max viability 'unlimited' frame rates were 60fps give or take a few... with Max cloud settings with a single deep 8/8 cumulus layer and 8/8 cirrus layer, and max visibility frame rates reduced to 51fps [give or take]... with my usual capped at 30fps I see no change between no clouds and full coverage, as it stays at 30. Naturally adding more layers will impact performance, but that will be true of any given set-up.Using REX with DXT5 optimised clouds at 4096 resolution... not using SM3 mods.Running my 6950 @ 6970 clocks, but do not have unlocked shaders.I can only compare to a 560ti over which I get better results at the same settings, maybe a 570 or 580 would deliver significantly better results than 6900 Radeon cards ... I also ran a GTX550ti for a time and that was very poor in most circumstances compared to an HD6790, let alone the 6900 series.Naturally different set-ups may vary... however when people talk of 'slide-show' framerates with clouds and AMD cards, this is has certainly not been my experience.

Edited February 20, 201214 yr by Novation

1680x1050???That´s a notebookscreen!RadeonPro... Tried it, it kept crashing everything, BSOD's and what not!What does it do better than CCC?

Edited February 20, 201214 yr by Tor

1680x1050???That´s a notebookscreen!RadeonPro... Tried it, it kept crashing everything, BSOD's and what not!What does it do better than CCC?

That is the max resolution of my monitor, which is hardly uncommon for a 22" screen.I use RadeonPro mainly for profile management as this did not feature in older Catalyst drivers, and there are a few extra options not available in the CCC [d3d triple buffering - application priority - frames to render, to name three]...If its causing you blue screens then it seems you have wider issues with your system, this may also explain why you have performance issues with your card.

Edited February 21, 201214 yr by Novation

"If its causing you blue screens then it seems you have wider issues with your system, this may also explain why you have performance issues with your card."Its' a common problem with this utility:http://forums.guru3d...322031&page=173I don't have any performance issues with my card! I have "cloud issues" in FSX, and everybody knows this is a problem, what about you?

"AMD/ATi also announced directly they will not develop nor will they make any effort to accommodate the older rendering engine MSFS uses.

If you use ATi with FSX you will end up being forced to install hacked shader files in order to come close to Nvidia performance which means you will effectively be forced to deal with nonsense issues to correctly all sorts of glitches that come with that hack"

http://www.simforums.com/forums/setting-up-fsx-and-how-to-tune-it_topic29041.html

Edited February 21, 201214 yr by Tor

I can confirm that with my otherwise awesome Asus HD 6970 Direct CU II (in modern games) with 3 x screen Eyfinity - the performance with overcast clouds in FSX just simply sucks!No matter if you use size 1024 and DX5 optimized, REX or AS 2012 (have them both) - it is still terrible, sadly...

dude, you're talking about a resolution of 5760x1080, go figure...

"If its causing you blue screens then it seems you have wider issues with your system, this may also explain why you have performance issues with your card."Its' a common problem with this utility:http://forums.guru3d...322031&page=173I don't have any performance issues with my card! I have "cloud issues" in FSX, and everybody knows this is a problem, what about you?

"AMD/ATi also announced directly they will not develop nor will they make any effort to accommodate the older rendering engine MSFS uses.

If you use ATi with FSX you will end up being forced to install hacked shader files in order to come close to Nvidia performance which means you will effectively be forced to deal with nonsense issues to correctly all sorts of glitches that come with that hack"

http://www.simforums.com/forums/setting-up-fsx-and-how-to-tune-it_topic29041.html

I don't know if this still stands with modern ATI cards.With my Nvidia card I am using heavy AA modes to get rid of very bad shimmering (that TrackIR reveals) the ATI cards don't seem to have in the first place.I guess if you know exactly what you're doing you can be quite happy with an ATI card.

Dude?I like The Dude, please call me "Your Dudeness" next time, yeah? :Peace:"you're talking about a resolution of 5760x1080, go figure..."- - and you don't know what you're talking about!This card can run 6 screens in Eyefinity...But they forgot FSX and them clouds, maybe Pacman will run just fine?!

Edited February 21, 201214 yr by Tor

Dude?I like The Dude, please call me "Your Dudeness" next time, yeah? :Peace:"you're talking about a resolution of 5760x1080, go figure..."- - and you don't know what you're talking about!This card can run 6 screens in Eyefinity...But they forgot FSX and them clouds, maybe Pacman will run just fine?!

I know what eyefinity is and I know what great load that resolution would put on any gpu in heavy weather. I guess "Your Dudeness" does not.I like the big lebowski too and I know what I am talking about ;)

another noob with 7970 here. asus card on [email protected] P55A 8Gb RAM. 3Gb GPU lightly overclocked to 985/1435 for 6048x1080 Eyefinity on ccc12.3 with 3 BenQ 24" This card replaced my old 2 GB Sapphire 6970.in one word - nothing. same drop from 45 to 10-15fps when AS2012 kick off heavy REX Overdrive x2048 res clouds Im using atm. DX- of HD- doesn't metter at all. NOJOY and NOGO. damn, I was so exited about this release and hoped for better with new card. ask your questions if any and maybe guide me for some optimization... will appreciate any advice. SH3.0 do not propose - helps a lil only with water...

AMD can´t do clouds, period..Not even the new monster 7970, BECAUSE AMD DON'T DEVELOP FOR FSX!http://www.simforums...topic29041.html- and here:http://forum.avsim.n...hd-6970-cayman/

Edited February 22, 201214 yr by Tor

Dude?I like The Dude, please call me "Your Dudeness" next time, yeah? :Peace:

The NY Times did "a dissertation" on His Dudness a couple years ago ....great piece ....peace?.