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Any Radeon HD7970 Owners Yet?

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Would love to know how AA in clouds behaves on this badboy in FS9 and FSX. Hoping to hear some feedback soon!

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Would love to know how AA in clouds behaves on this badboy in FS9 and FSX. Hoping to hear some feedback soon!
Wondering too.... Although the full bandwith of PCIe3 will not be avaiable until Ivy Bridge hits the market.

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Another interested potential buyer here, wondering if the 90% perf improvement seen in most benchmarks over my current 5870 will be felt in FSX, especially for the 5760x1080 potential.

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I'm ready to take the plunge if the feedback is good. Been doing a lot of searching on the interent. Overall seems to be a plus but not enough info on people using it with FSX.

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Another interested potential buyer here, wondering if the 90% perf improvement seen in most benchmarks over my current 5870 will be felt in FSX, especially for the 5760x1080 potential.
How does the 5870 perform in FSX? I already ordered one and it should be here next week.

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How does the 5870 perform in FSX? I already ordered one and it should be here next week.
It actually does pretty well, you have to enable SuperSampling if you want to get rid of jaggies, but runs well for me at 1920x1080 with eyecandy turned up.I posted some Eyefinity comparisons here:http://forum.avsim.net/topic/360361-anyone-using-eyefinity-3-screens/page__view__findpost__p__2234743

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It actually does pretty well, you have to enable SuperSampling if you want to get rid of jaggies, but runs well for me at 1920x1080 with eyecandy turned up.I posted some Eyefinity comparisons here:http://forum.avsim.n...ost__p__2234743
Remove the FPS locked @ 30FPS. I would really like to see how your system performs without it being limited. I am very eager to see how FPS is compared to my cruddy GTS 450.

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Remove the FPS locked @ 30FPS. I would really like to see how your system performs without it being limited. I am very eager to see how FPS is compared to my cruddy GTS 450.
Sure, just keep in mind this is with my venotubo tweaked fsx and REX+UT2 etc... so just compare the results in context to the other settings.3 monitors at 1920x1080 framerate unlimited (left and right monitors are available for FSX windows like kneeboard or GPS)Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg12009, 300000, 27, 49, 40.030
3 monitors at 1920x1080 fullscreen (left and right monitors are available for FSX windows like kneeboard or GPS) 30FPS internal locked.Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg8958, 300000, 23, 31, 29.8603 monitors as one 4800x900 Eyefinity fullscreen 30 FPS internal locked.Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg7601, 300000, 14, 31, 25.3373 monitors as one 5760x1080 Eyefinity fullscreen window 30 FPS internal locked.Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg6123, 300000, 13, 27, 20.410
I think you will be pretty happy with the 5870, it's been an awesome card for me for 2.5 years, and I am mainly considering an upgrade to get 30+ FPS at 5760x1080 triple monitor.

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3 monitors at 1920x1080 framerate unlimited (left and right monitors are available for FSX windows like kneeboard or GPS)Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg12009, 300000, 27, 49, 40.030
Viola! That number is 3 FPS higher than what I got on FSMark11. I think I'll be holding on to my 5870 for a while. :Big Grin:And with all three displays plugged in I bet there might even be a slight reduction in FPS.Thank you very much!

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Hi Everyone and thanks for your replies. I'm currently running a 5850 at 1680x1024 on a 22" monitor using the apps in my sig plus HDE2 clouds at their highest resolution. Other than AA in clouds, frames range from 30-50 but take a hit in clouds, as expected. I'm actually waiting for some 7950 feedback as well....early February is when the cards will be available. I've also been given DCS A-10 as a gift and will be running that on my new rig as soon as it's finished (2500K on a Z68 m/b with 8gig and Win7x64). My primary concern is AA on the ATI card. I could go to nVidia, but I also use the rig for photo/video editing, and ATI cards are the preferred for that type of work. I've used both in the past for their respective strengths!

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From everything I have read, these cards are going to thrash the Nvidia 500 series in gaming applications big time. What it can or can not do with FSX may be another story, but all things being equal, when linked to fast CPU and RAM it should be the champion, at least until Nvidia releases the 680 GTX.Kind regards,

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I still can't help feeling we're all chasing our tails with these cards. I little bit like having a Ferrari and only being able to drive it on single track roads!

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I still can't help feeling we're all chasing our tails with these cards. I little bit like having a Ferrari and only being able to drive it on single track roads!
You are certainly right there. I am going to wait to upgrade my video card from the 580 GTX until there is really very good reason to do so. I have spend thousands of dollars on a 8800 GTX, 9800 GTX, 275 GTX, 470 GTX, 480 GTX and a 580 GTX in just 2 or 3 years. When I think of all the CPU, RAM, MB, PSU changes, upgrades, and paraphernalia that went with them, I am disgusted with myself. It was fun at the time though, but no more until absolutely necessary!By the way, when did they say that Ivy Bridge and Kepler is coming? Big%20Grin.gif Kind regards,

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680 GTX
As far as I know, I believe that Nvidia is skipping the GTX600 series.
By the way, when did they say that Ivy Bridge and Kepler is coming? Posted Image
I have heard that Kepler is due out in late Q1 2012 and Ivy Bridge looks like late Q2 2012.

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kepler maybe delayed due to problems with the pcie 3.0 interface
That is what is likely going to happen. Lot's of rumors and speculation and very little word from Nvidia about Kepler at this point. Somewhat worrying IMO.

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Yes, I have a few suggestions for some areas to be observe:1) Default FSX flight of the Trike. Can't think of what airport it is but you start the flight actually in flight, not on the runway. I would do it in Winter to check out the effect on all the autogen trees - shimmer? flicker? AA issues?Since there is a lot of water there it would be good to check out the water effects like moire effects and the like?2) I also find Las Vegas a good testing ground as it has a lot of custom skyscrapers (the hotels) there and you can see how AA, moire and the like are there? How's the airport and the strip at a distance? Can't think of the technical term but maybe it's all AA related as straight lines get broken up and lot's of "squiggles" happening (ah, a technical term!).3) Clouds use to be a big FPS killer but I am not sure about that anymore.So you can see for me it's more of how it ;looks over FPS, but of course we would still like to hear about that... your test settings, any before/after tweaks.Boy, all this talk has me itching to once again give my 6970 a try but maybe I will wait to hear back on your testing.Hope that helps,Clutch

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I'm receiving my HD7970 today. I will test FSX and make a video about the performance. Any suggestions for the testing? Like, addons?
Please considering doing the FSXMark11 test, following the instructions exactly so that we can get a real apples for apples comparison before and after you install the new card. That would be really helpful!http://forum.avsim.n...9116-fsxmark11/https://docs.google....=CMSSocoI#gid=0Kind regards,

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Thanks for the suggestions, I'll take them into consideration. My current spects are CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4.0 GHz, RAM 8 GB 1600MHz Corsair Vengeance, and today will get my HD7970. Testing will be performed at 1080p, so I'm a little skeptic about reaching awesome FPS as my CPU isn't too good. With my current Dual HD6850s in crossfire config, I'm more than happy with the results at 720p, and at 1080p it is also good except when I go to one of those big addon airports in an FPS killer like the 737NGX from PMDG.

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Also I think even if you can't do a completely clean FSXMark11 run (as I wasn't due to the need for clean FSX install) in the meantime even a run that compares your existing 6850s to your new 7970 with the same FSX settings would be useful IMHO, to compare the two cards in the same FSX context, but a clean FSXMark11 would of course be better to compare the results to the other FSXMark11 results in the thread mentioned by Stephen.A clean FSXMark11 run is on my list of things to do next time I reinstall FSX+addons.

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Yes, I have a few suggestions for some areas to be observe:1) Default FSX flight of the Trike. Can't think of what airport it is but you start the flight actually in flight, not on the runway. I would do it in Winter to check out the effect on all the autogen trees - shimmer? flicker? AA issues?Hope that helps,Clutch
Your thinking of Friday Harbor I believe.

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I started this post with impact on clouds and AA the primary concern, especially in FS9. I know that FSXMark11 will give us a good benchmark. The one thing that I've always wondered about was what other games that are benched on the popular hardware sites most closely resemble FS9 or FSX and the performance to expect when flying thru clouds with AA turned on?Getting excited here as 7950 are right around the corner and now nVidia is claiming Kepler will beat AMD's 79xx with it's eyes closed! This spring should see some great performance improvements from Ivy Bridge, PCIe 3 and the new GPUs.....I hope!

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