Just uploaded a Delta repaint for the JF 737 to the Avsim library for anyone interested.

Is it my understanding the CS is available as of yesterday with the VC? Was just reading on their website about a phase two experimental at 75% of full price.

Yup, it's not a full release and there are some strings attached, but you can indeed now get a VC for the CS 737.Al

Yup, it's not a full release and there are some strings attached, but you can indeed now get a VC for the CS 737.Al

Thanks Al for verifying that. Otherwise they are admitting its buggy with the "experimental" deal, but heck thats not all bad I reckon. Kinda progressive marketing.

Mr. Todd, nice Delta repaint, thanks for that!May i ask a question: saw that you have GSX installed. Do you managed to make it work ok with the JF 737? I didn´t manage to make it work properly in here. The air stairs and the catering is completely lost with this plane. The only thing that works ok is the puskback. GSX works ok with every plane else. Can you say if you did something to make it work properly? Thanks!

Oh, I'll be getting that CS one too, since I've already bought half of it anyway, along with their Triple Seven LOLMost people who frequent Avsim's forums will be aware that since it was me who favourably reviewed their other two classic Boeing jetliners for Avsim and indeed recommended them, that I do actually like their stuff, I just wish they'd be clearer with their marketing, because right now the info on that discount system is all a bit: 'you can have this at a discount, providing you have that, and you'll need this, but not if you have the other, oh, and then you'll also need this...' which is confusing to say the least.CS products are great, and some of them are brilliant, but they shoot themselves in the foot on a regular basis with their marketing and end up with everyone waiting until they sell stuff for 9.99 in a sale as a result. Which is good news for bargain hunters, but bad news for their accountants.Al

Very interesting and (as always) articulate views there Chock! I felt a lot of what you said was really fair, but I was left wondering if perhaps you have an old version of the JF DC-6B as I bought that 3 days ago, and feel the VC is dramatically superior to the 737-200. But as we all know, one man's ceiling is another man's floor!I also feel the JF 737-200's FDE is miles off; both in terms of the numbers and the 'feel'..... but again, these areas are hard to measure quantatively.

Mr. Todd, nice Delta repaint, thanks for that!May i ask a question: saw that you have GSX installed. Do you managed to make it work ok with the JF 737? I didn´t manage to make it work properly in here. The air stairs and the catering is completely lost with this plane. The only thing that works ok is the puskback. GSX works ok with every plane else. Can you say if you did something to make it work properly? Thanks!

No, it did not work properly...that is why I waited for the catering service to stop before taking a screenshot, just wanted the truck in the picture for effect. I think FSDT will have to add support for it? not sure how that works with new planes.

Thans for the report. In fact i think it´s JF that have to correct the exits entries in their cfg to make it work properly. Not gsx fault. Anyway, i asked JF support to look over it. I will post here if they reply back. Thanks again!

Oh, I'll be getting that CS one too, since I've already bought half of it anyway, along with their Triple Seven LOLMost people who frequent Avsim's forums will be aware that since it was me who favourably reviewed their other two classic Boeing jetliners for Avsim and indeed recommended them, that I do actually like their stuff, I just wish they'd be clearer with their marketing, because right now the info on that discount system is all a bit: 'you can have this at a discount, providing you have that, and you'll need this, but not if you have the other, oh, and then you'll also need this...' which is confusing to say the least.CS products are great, and some of them are brilliant, but they shoot themselves in the foot on a regular basis with their marketing and end up with everyone waiting until they sell stuff for 9.99 in a sale as a result. Which is good news for bargain hunters, but bad news for their accountants.Al

I want to like Captain Sim, I really do... I have their 707, 727, 757, 767 and part of the 737. But when I have a valid complaint over something that they have done and get a response to the tune of "Life isn't fair", it makes me want to vomit. Really, if I were to go to a big box store and request an exchange --- with reciept in hand --- and I recieved a response like that I would blow up, and surely never go back. Captain Sim may make "ok" planes with great eye-candy, but I don't think they have enough "puckered lips" to get me to ever buy from them again. On a better note I really look forward to what MilViz has in store for the old 37'.

I want to like Captain Sim, I really do... I have their 707, 727, 757, 767 and part of the 737. But when I have a valid complaint over something that they have done and get a response to the tune of "Life isn't fair", it makes me want to vomit. Really, if I were to go to a big box store and request an exchange --- with reciept in hand --- and I recieved a response like that I would blow up, and surely never go back. Captain Sim may make "ok" planes with great eye-candy, but I don't think they have enough "puckered lips" to get me to ever buy from them again. On a better note I really look forward to what MilViz has in store for the old 37'.

Todd, not sure if it helps but. The way I look at it is that if I like an addon I buy it because I want to enjoy the addon and not because I'm in love with support . Sure if the addon does not work for you and support sucks you're in trouble but it is also likely that if you have a problem with the software chances are somebody else complains about the same bug whatever,posts on forums and you benefit as well. It's a bit of a risk but then again some addons are worth it imo.

I actually like it a lot having flown about with it a bit with it today, but you should bear in mind that I am a sucker for 737s, so I am probably not the most impartial of judges. It's no PMDG, but it is nevertheless a pretty faithful representation on a 200ADV where it matters most, i.e. in how it flies and in what instrumentation and systems are modeled.So you can do a proper start up with it (in fact you will have to have the bleeds, electrics, fuel and such on the overhead set up correctly if you want to crank it up via the start switches, unless you are inclined to hit Control+S), and you can navigate in a realistic manner with it, so that's most people's important boxes ticked straight away.As far as emulating a real 200 series 737's cockpit goes, it is quite well endowed in the avionics department, i.e. more like one of the better airline's choices of fit, although that is obviously a lot less equipment than you find on an NG's flight deck, so the need to use radio navigation means fans of FMC button pushing are unlikely to enjoy it as much as an NG or a 400, but it does manage a good automated ILS alignment, so it's not completely without aids to flying if you need them. It flies well manually, which is just as well since the real 200 is, in most pilot's opinions, the nicest-handling of all the 737 variants. Also importantly from a realism standpoint, it is a slippery son of a *****, like the real thing is, so descents require some thought, and again as with the real thing, the JTs clamshell thrust reversers are crappy compared to 737s with CFMs and high bypass thrust, so when it comes to landing it doesn't stop on a dime like an NG can, which is a pleasing bit of simulated realism. On the real thing, the downward thrust from the clamshell reversers makes the 200 and 100 series 737s lighter on their main wheels, so they can on occasion brake less effectively and skid about when in reverse thrust, thus the less than stellar braking that is modeled on the JF 200 is inkeeping with what pilots of the real thing have to deal with. It's also worth noting that it will roll on idle thrust too, so taxying it in a realistic manner is quite possible as well. Both good points for those who rate ground handling simulation as an important point.Proportionally, the model is good overall, the windows and engine nacelles might not have quite enough polygons for those who like ultra-close-up screenshots, but all the bits seem to be in the right places for an ADV, i.e. it has the correct modified inboard leading edge slats, the landing lights are on the outboard wing section, there is no gang bar on the landing light switches, no automatic pressure, etc, etc. Texturing is good on the whole, with some nice old airline paint jobs such as Britannia and the like. Nice details such as smoke stains on the fuselage from the thrust reversers are in evidence and as per the real thing, those engines do spit out a fair bit of smoke when it is whizzing about the skies.Inside, cockpit graphics are better than recent efforts from Just Flight, such as their rather too shiny and clean DC-6, although I think the cockpit could do with being a bit more of a dark bluish grey, as it is on the somewhat austere cockpit of a real 200. Nevertheless, nice touches such as one or two shiny toggle switches on the overhead (if you have bloom etc on) help to give it a used feel. It's not on par with old airliner cockpits in offerings from Captain Sim such as that seen on their 707 and 727, but it's not far off it in the places where it matters, although stuff which is not simulated, such as the rear bulkhead circuit breakers, are not given much texturing attention.The sound is okay, not quite that 'Lear 23' turbojet scream, but it is okay, and there are some decent payware and freeware JT sounds kicking about anyway if you don't like it the way it is. In the cockpit however, the sound is great (i.e. noisy like a real old 737 is) with the wipers making a right racket and the trim wheel clattering away like mad. On the real thing, those eyebrow windows don't help make it quiet either. Throw in AccuSim's recent FSX realism add-on and you've got some good classic rattling jet fun right there.Of course with 737 original series model contenders from Captain Sim and now MILVIZ too apparently, it's got some competition, but you could do a lot worse than to check it out. For twitchy credit card fingers, it does have the advantage of being available now, unlike the partially complete CS one and the yet to come MILVIZ one, although one can of course now stick this JF cockpit in the CS 737s too and enjoy a correct VC in their excellent original series 737 models whilst awaiting their own efforts on that score.If you can live with it being visually good, rather than visually stunning (keeping in mind that this polygonal and texturing compromise does help frame rates), and if you like the 737, then you will probably not be disappointed. I'm certainly happy with it and am looking forward to whizzing around virtual Europe with it.Al

Your write up is very good ... and I agree with you !Their tech people are looking at a few (non-show stoppers, IMO) reported problems.I am really enjoying "learning" gauges again and feeling the flight a little more.Have a good flight.

And today I got the JF737-200 throtles (Saitek) calibrated with FSUIPC so when I fully retart the throttle levers (idle) then a bit more, then the reverse thrust levers will come back for the reverse thrust. Then advancing the throttles back to idle cancels the rev thrust levers.You have to click on the photos to get a view .. I did not size them very good .

Just uploaded a Delta repaint for the JF 737 to the Avsim library for anyone interested.Nice paint.

Wondering if you were interested in doing the "Janet" US Government Charter flight to area 51 paint?