Allthought mouse/keyboard is good enought to enjoy MSF t.m.o., I'm thinking about to purchase a joystick. May I ask those members who use a jstick: is it 'worth' to fly with a joystick, and so yes: what joystick you should advise?Thanks in advance for your reply

Any joystick should be an improvement, but, at a minimum, look for one with a twisting action to control rudder inputs. A throttle slider on the stick is also very handy.

Oh yes, in a big way. If you are really enjoying Flight and think you will stick with it a while, do yourself a favor and get at least a stick/throttle, where the stick has a twist you can use for rudder.There are several good ones out there available to us, what you get will depend largely on how much you want to spend on it, anywhere from an entry level cheaper stick, to a more advanced setup , with rudder pedals, that is programmable and will last you for years.If you want to pursue, I might suggest posting in the hardware section under controllers for feedback based on what you are looking for - you should get a lot of great feedback from there.Some popular manufacturers, without getting into individual models:CH ProductsSaitekLogitech

yes a joystick is a must at the least. For an affordable one $26 with shipping I would recommend http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Extreme-Joystick-Silver-Black/dp/B00009OY9U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1331408144&sr=8-1I have a flight yoke system I highly recommend but you will have to spend about $230.... http://www.amazon.com/Saitek-Flight-Three-Lever-Throttle-PZ44/dp/B000TCD1UK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1331408239&sr=8-1and for the rudder pedalshttp://www.amazon.com/Saitek-Pro-Flight-Rudder-Pedals/dp/B000H67DDY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1331408239&sr=8-2Don't buy just the yoke, you need the rudder pedals as well or you wont be-able to steer on the ground (plus there a ton of fun)

With mouse you will allways get control auto-centering and auto-rudder. While auto-centering is really nice to have, auto-rudder is not allways what you want, specially if you really want to make an uncoordinated manouver such as a simple sideslip.

Appreciate your replies thruly. Thanks Dburne to point to the hardware-section, have to study the interesting comments there. In my FSX-time (some years ago) I remember I was nearly at the point on purchasing a stick+yokes set. I used a simple joystick, but that was even more difficult to handle (probable a cheaper one) than the keyboard and couldn't get a precisely reaction from the handle and throttle.I consider to buy a better one; a joystick + throttle could be suited my needs, I guess. Something like saitek X52 Pro Flight. Mmm.. rudders are 'a bridge to far' for me. When I should take js+throttle, do I understand that I have/need the rudders as well, like mna27 said?

I use a Thrustmaster T16000 - not expensive and works quite wellFlight recognised it and the presets are fine - it is a twist stick for rudder control...very smoothI dont have deskspace for a seperate throttle or HOTAS system and rudder pedals and trackIR etc...The Thrustmaster is basic and has been dependable - 2 years of daily use

Appreciate your replies thruly. Thanks Dburne to point to the hardware-section, have to study the interesting comments there. In my FSX-time (some years ago) I remember I was nearly at the point on purchasing a stick+yokes set. I used a simple joystick, but that was even more difficult to handle (probable a cheaper one) than the keyboard and couldn't get a precisely reaction from the handle and throttle.I consider to buy a better one; a joystick + throttle could be suited my needs, I guess. Something like saitek X52 Pro Flight. Mmm.. rudders are 'a bridge to far' for me. When I should take js+throttle, do I understand that I have/need the rudders as well, like mna27 said?

Yeah if you stick with it, you will come to a point you will just have to have rudders - whether you take that plunge now or later is up to you, and your budget. If you are the type that tends to burn out, think maybe you will tire of Flight and go on to something else, then I would hold off. If you are passionate about it and feel like you will stay with it for a while, and can fit in your budget - why not go ahead and take care of that too while you are at it?I have been flight simming off and on, for more years than I care to remember. I started off with a really cheap Kraft joystick- some folks here might remember them - that was a lot of years ago, then graduated to a Thrustmaster F16 Hotas - the original plastic one, then when they came out with the all metal Cougar in 2001 I got it. Not too mention since then, in 2003, I spent even more than I did on the original Cougar, upgrading it to a new gimball system with Hall sensors. Lots of dollars invested in it But it has run many many hours for me since without nary a glitch.Oh, and the reason I prefer a stick and throttle setup versus a yoke - I like to fly other things beside civilian sims as well, so while this setup works great for me with Flight and FSX, it also works great for other flight sims, like DCS Blackshark, IL2, EECH, etc...Best of luck in your research and purchase should you get one!

I meant if you decide to buy the yoke, get the rudder pedals as well. If you just get the joystick (like the one I linked) you don't need the pedals because it twists which can be set to the rudder.

Well, your advises are appreciated. At the moment I have enough information to make my choice in shorttime. The moment is there to explore the hardwaremarket over here, i will help to f(l)ight the economic crisis :Straight Face:

That's the spirit - stimulate the economy man!

I use the mouse and keyboard 95% of the time. The mouse flight is implemented well, and you can still manually rudder with the keyboard. Tapping the A and D key as needed is sufficient for takeoffs and landings. I have obtained gold in most challenges (except the stunts) with the mouse. (settings are as realistic as I can make them) Most flights just need small corrections and smooth turns, and I am more gentle with the mouse than any joystick.For doing loops and fancy stuff I do use a joystick. And for landing in really bad weather. It takes a while to get used to it, but the mouse flight is really quite good for free-flight. Good luck!

I'm using a Logitech Extreme 3D Pro and I love it. Highly recommended!

I'm using the Saitek X52 Pro which works really good with Flight.

yes a joystick is a must at the least. I use CH Yoke Eclipse + Throttle Quadrand + Rudder Pedals