March 14, 201214 yr I'll bury it here, in this thread. It's not alphabetical, but island by island, generally in a loop. Much like me circling to land, here, there, a little of everywhere!Awesome!!! Love it! MS Flight got me hooked on VOR flying! That's what you get when you don't have a GPS... Good decision from MS to not include one in the 'normal' aircrafts.
March 14, 201214 yr I decided to make a pdf of all the great information provided in this topic (credits included! ). The pdf (A4 size landscape) has three pages with a map on each page and the information about the VORs for triangulation on each relevant page.Unfortunately I can't get the pdf uploaded to this forum, so here is an external link to a zip with the pdf in it. Enjoy.Hawaiian Islands Maps And VORs For Triangulation.pdfhttp://www.fsfiles.o.../1331787652.zip
March 14, 201214 yr I decided to make a pdf of all the great information provided in this topic (credits included! ). The pdf (A4 size landscape) has three pages with a map on each page and the information about the VORs for triangulation on each relevant page.Unfortunately I can't get the pdf uploaded to this forum, so here is an external link to a zip with the pdf in it. Enjoy.Hawaiian Islands Maps And VORs For Triangulation.pdfhttp://www.fsfiles.o.../1331787652.zip Sweet, thanks for that Jeroen! Don B
March 14, 201214 yr Y'all really need to quite tempting me on that train simulator - wife already thinks I am nuts being so into flight simming, I shudder to think what her reaction would be to train simming LOL.Probably best not to think about this then...http://upload.wikime...es_rigby_20.jpgSlightly off topic of course, but Train Sim 2012 is pretty cool if you like choo choos (and let's face it, what bloke does not?). Funnily enough, it is very similar to Flight conceptually, in that it has career rewards, missions, challenges and the like, and graphically it is a step up from most sims too with pretty advanced lighting and environmental modeling (check out the emulation of rain on the windows in TS 2012 if you want to be impressed - it puts flight sims to shame). TS 2012 is a kind of similar business model to what MS is doing with Flight/Live too, especially if you buy it via Steam, so if you want a vision of the shape of things to come for Flight in terms of DLC expansion, it's not a bad pointer, not least from a financial standpoint.Good to know I'm not the only one who has HO model trains here too BTW - I have a huge NS/Conrail/NYS&W layout in my loft, and if you think Flight Simming add-ons can get expensive, you should try HO train layouts for size, that hobby can easily rival flight simming for bankrupting you and driving your wife mad LOLAl Alan Bradbury Check out my youtube flight sim videos: Here
March 14, 201214 yr Was getting sick of hitting the M key to see the map and also for doing jobs when I have the destination marker disabled and you can't access maps.So I made my own so I can easily have them up on one of my other monitors. . I included NDB's also just for future proofing. Excellent, many thanks,they are very helpful Regards John (Bird) 4.6GHz OC, Windows 10 Creator, 16GB RAM, 780 Ti SC 3GB, SSDs Thrust master HOTAS Warthog, Virtual-Fly TQ3, CH Pro Rudder Pedals, 40 inch 4K Philips screen, CV1 Touch, AFS2, P3D4
March 14, 201214 yr Probably best not to think about this then...http://upload.wikime...es_rigby_20.jpg I wasn't aware PAN AM had SD60MACs, let alone locomotives or anything to do with railroading in the United States. Learn something new every day. Jason BocheDelta Virtual Airlines Assistant Chief Pilot, B767-300
March 14, 201214 yr I decided to make a pdf of all the great information provided in this topic (credits included! ). The pdf (A4 size landscape) has three pages with a map on each page and the information about the VORs for triangulation on each relevant page.Unfortunately I can't get the pdf uploaded to this forum, so here is an external link to a zip with the pdf in it. Enjoy.Hawaiian Islands Maps And VORs For Triangulation.pdfhttp://www.fsfiles.o.../1331787652.zip Thank you for your contribution. This forum and its members are a tremendous resource. Jason BocheDelta Virtual Airlines Assistant Chief Pilot, B767-300
March 14, 201214 yr Probably best not to think about this then...http://upload.wikime...es_rigby_20.jpgSlightly off topic of course, but Train Sim 2012 is pretty cool if you like choo choos (and let's face it, what bloke does not?). Funnily enough, it is very similar to Flight conceptually, in that it has career rewards, missions, challenges and the like, and graphically it is a step up from most sims too with pretty advanced lighting and environmental modeling (check out the emulation of rain on the windows in TS 2012 if you want to be impressed - it puts flight sims to shame). TS 2012 is a kind of similar business model to what MS is doing with Flight/Live too, especially if you buy it via Steam, so if you want a vision of the shape of things to come for Flight in terms of DLC expansion, it's not a bad pointer, not least from a financial standpoint.Good to know I'm not the only one who has HO model trains here too BTW - I have a huge NS/Conrail/NYS&W layout in my loft, and if you think Flight Simming add-ons can get expensive, you should try HO train layouts for size, that hobby can easily rival flight simming for bankrupting you and driving your wife mad LOLAlMan oh man, you just had to do that didn't you, and here I am homebound for the next several days due to circumstances beyond my control , with a whole lot more computer time available to me during this than what would be normal... :smile:Many thanks for the info, looks like I may well be checking out a new type of simulator here very soon... Don B
March 15, 201214 yr About using VORs for triangulation: I just used a method described in this pdf:http://www.sarangan.org/aviation/articles/vor-article.pdfwhich was posted in this topichttp://forum.avsim.net/topic/365992-vor-navigation/by N6330V and BOY, does it work! I always found it quite complicated having to turn the OBS knobs all the time and to look at TO and FROM and think about inbound and outbound... but I just tried Sarangan's method in the RV and I could EASILY find each and every airport using meshman's data without any problem at all. You just set bot VORs to where they should intersect and that's it: you immediately fly in the right direction without having to think about TO and FROM or inbound and outbound. It's so easy that I don't understand why I didn't know of this...Give it a try, I'd say!
March 15, 201214 yr Many, many years ago someone posted this link; http://www.navfltsm.addr.com/I ended up printing the whole site and putting it into a three ring binder and would read it as time allowed during work, there were lull periods during the days of driving a truck. What I got most from it, seeing as I never finished reading all of it, was if there were navaids around then it was pretty difficult to get lost, if you knew what to do with the data. Triangulating VORs can give you the location you are at, even if it's in the middle of nowhere. A NDB can help do the same, if there were NDB gauges to work with.Last night I did the daily Aerocache in the Icon and darned if I had a hard time finding that starting strip for a landing, even though I've been in and out of it many times. Had I been using the Maule or Vans, I wouldn't have had that empty feeling of being lost, yet again...
March 15, 201214 yr Many, many years ago someone posted this link; http://www.navfltsm.addr.com/ That's a very well known site and everyone usually points to that one when asked about VOR, but the pdf that N6330V posted and more specific the link in that pdf ( http://www.campbells.org/Airplanes/VOR/vor.html ) shows that the VOR is meant to be used in a different way, really... It completely makes reverse sensing and reciprocal headings etc. a thing of the past. Most people use the VOR as a command instrument while it really isn't that.I advice everyone who is used to using the VOR as a command instrument to read the pdf and the link posted above: it may change your way of doing things. Using the VOR gauge as it was originally intended (and NOT as all pilot schools tells you) will make navigating a lot easier.
March 15, 201214 yr Being both new to AVSIM and flight sims this is invaluable information, thank you very much :)Now I need to decipher it all and put it into practice.
March 17, 201214 yr Nice indeed! Thanks for posting!Good luck (in advance) with doing the same for Alaska... and any other upcoming region. Hopefully we will get a working GPS in the future (not (only) for navigation but also to look up frequencies and maps etc.!)Otherwise you can use Plan-G on an other monitor or computer (no sync with the sim here contrary to FSX though)www.tasoftware.co.uk (freeware)
March 17, 201214 yr If anyone is interested, I've got some basic PDF's with some airport info. First is just a PDF formatted version, second is a PDF formatted for the Nook SimpleTouch. The only big error is the Hilo ASOS frequency (and on the SimpleTouch version a missing zero on one of the HNL ILS frequencies), but they'll be fixed in new versions eventually.Useful stuff included is Pattern altitude where available, right patterns noted, links to airport diagrams in the big one, and other relevant tidbits from AirNav.PDF:https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwj8T6H85jadSG9mdEMteGhUeWlHeUozUmY1YzlHZw/editSimpleTouch PDF:https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwj8T6H85jadUVNQRThNWVRUQ2VnSVRkYnRhZnluZw/edit
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