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ILS RWY / GS

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How can you identify from the Map if an ILS RWY has Glide Slope?Roy NH

Hi RoyDon't all of the ILS runways have a glide slope? Not all of the airports with VORs have ILSs though.Mike

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If they do Mike, I'm not receiving them.Roy

How can you identify from the Map if an ILS RWY has Glide Slope?Roy NH
The Glide Slope is part of the Intrument landing System (ILS). All ILS approaches have a glide slope. The MS Flight map designation for an ILS is the Cyan colored extended arrow pointing to a runway. Like this.Ray

When Pigs Fly . Ray Marshall .

I strongly need a plane with a working autopilot to perform cat III auto landings.I am really disappointed that both the Maule and the RV6 misses a working autopilot. MS come on give us an A/P sooner rather than never.

It's been years since I allowed the autopilot to do an ILS landing in FSX. And I was doing ILS landings in MSFS for years before we had an autopilot to do them for us.Hook

Larry Hookins

 

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Thanks for taking the time to do that for me Ray. I just haven't seen the indicater for GS move on the ILS instrument, i'll do some more ILS landings.Roy

all ilses do indeed have glideslopes. but you sometimes just get localiser only approaches. (LOC DME) then you are on your own regarding vertical profile. save for suggested altitudes at DME distances.localiser is the horizontal component of the ILS by the way for those who dont know

I strongly need a plane with a working autopilot to perform cat III auto landings.I am really disappointed that both the Maule and the RV6 misses a working autopilot.MS come on give us an A/P sooner rather than never.
Then you also need something like a 737, I presume...? Auto landings in a Maule or RV6... don't think so. :wink:
Then you also need something like a 737, I presume...? Auto landings in a Maule or RV6... don't think so. :wink:
I think Maule and RV6 do not have such ability :smile: and of course these 2 planes are new to me but I think the A/P somehow can use the glideslope to auto-descend and align with the runway even if they can't perform full autolandings . Is this true ?Please be gentle, I'm still learning these 2 planes :smile:

if they have an approach mode on the AP then yes.but it wont have auto throttle or anything id imagine, so manual speed control. im not aware of any light aircraft which can autoland. then you are talking about 3 autopilots for fail operational redundancy etc.for cat 3 c

if they have an approach mode on the AP then yes.but it wont have auto throttle or anything id imagine, so manual speed control. im not aware of any light aircraft which can autoland. then you are talking about 3 autopilots for fail operational redundancy etc.for cat 3 c
Yeah I did the wrong and short way cutting corners.... I skipped the GA planes in favor of the PMDG planes so I know them quite well but I miss the basic concepts of aviation but I like to learn how to deal with Maule instruments to fly VOR to VOR but i seriously hate correcting the course every 5 seconds due to the missing of an A/P.I have never used the 737/767 Autoland features because I feel it like cheating but I always use the ILS until I feel safe to proceed manually.So I am GA noob but I do not cheat using Autoland except heavy fog but I was never able to reproduce it in FSX despite REX.
VOR to VOR but i seriously hate correcting the course every 5 seconds due to the missing of an A/P.
Then you probably are chasing the needle... You should be able to fly for a longer time than that without going of course again. When using VOR do not look at the deviation needle to see if you are going the right way: look at your current heading! Obviously you will want to get the needle centered but tha't only useful if you keep an eye on your actual heading. Anticipate where you think the needle will go (left or right) and only make small adjustments while you keep on watching your heading.Imagine you should fly towards the VOR at a heading of 60. People who chase the needle usually fly at a heading of 50 or 70, constantly going left and right. And when they intercept the needle and it's dead in the middle, they forget to check if the current heading is the right one, which often isn't the case and within no time they will be at the other side of the needle again.So when you intercept the needle ALWAYS look if your actual heading is the right one: if not, then you did not intercept the right radial but you simply passed it. :wink:
I have never used the 737/767 Autoland features because I feel it like cheating but I always use the ILS until I feel safe to proceed manually.So I am GA noob but I do not cheat using Autoland except heavy fog but I was never able to reproduce it in FSX despite REX.
I own the 737NGX and if possible I do autolands because I like doing them. :wink: It's not cheating imho. For manual landings I fly GA.ANd oh, btw, with the right AP (with an APP mode) you can indeed fly a complete ILS, and you COULD even autoland, but er... don't expect a smooth landing: you will simply descent into earth. :wink:

To do an autolanding (CAT IIIC) I believe you need four certified components:1- ILS;2 - Airport;3 - Plane;4 - Pilot;Without any autopilot you can only do a CAT I (200 ft Decision Height)

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Jeroen is quite correct. When you first center the CDI with the OBS knob, check two things immediately:1. To/From pointer, make sure the one you want is displayed!2. Read the outer compass dial to determine what heading you need to fly.Now, maintain that heading as closely as possible. Make slight (one or two degree) corrections as needed to keep the CDI needle centered.

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