But it does take time to learn flying a complex airbus when you flew only PA with Ken Mitchell's panel or just exclusively boeings (even the complex ones) so far.I am not saying this products is free of bugs, as it is not yet. But as a longtime user and a regular (AirSimmer) suport forum reader and also contributor I can tell you one thing.There were (and still are) A LOT OF complaints which in the end turned out to be the result of people's lack of knowledge of the AB systems and flight techniques.Some time ago I was flying the mentioned Wilco buses. While I hated their look, I had no problems with mastering them and believed flying an airbus is as easy as pie. When it came to AirSimmer I was frustrated.Then I started studying SmartCockpit and the A32X FCOM, bought TOPCAT, and I learned more than anytime else in my flightsimming career. Now I have an unprecedented amount of pleasure in driving my AS A320.I am not AirSimmer's spokesman, so I would believe there is no need for me to defend my own simming pleasure.But as Mark suggested anyone who wants to have a REAL opinion on that product, should buy it, try hard for 29 days and in case they do not like it, just return it and get their money back.I don't think that's possible with Wilco or PSS, so maybe this is why once you buy them, you have to like them. :(

Hey Rafal, I would love to buy it again.It has a great exterior model and a great cockpit. But the damn CTDs at least when I tried it last year. Have they been sorted out?

the damn CTDs at least when I tried it last year. Have they been sorted out?

As you probably know, occasional CTD's happen with every aircraft and even with some scenery addons. AirSimmer is not an exception here.Some users get frequents CTD's, others occasional and still others none. If your FS/OS crashes depends on so many factors and their interactions.I can tell you that most CTD's in my FS career I've had with PDMG 744 and MD-11. As for AirSimmer, I did have a few. But on the othere hand I have made about 30 flights without any single trouble.So you need to buy, try and decide. No risk. :(

Not sure what you mean, but my statement stands - the Airsimmer visual model inside/out is the best by far for fs9. Modeling, lighting, animations etc

Are you talking about the Project Airbus V2.1 that was just released this year about 2 months ago? Maybe you should actually download it and take a look at the "visual" display of the model before making statements like that. There isn't another model of the Airbus A320 or A321 for that matter that is more accurate down to the signature double strobe or dropping ailerons feature than the Project Airbus A320. Those 2 features alone with wingflex make this not even up for debate. The PA A320 looks better than the AirSimmer and is more accurate overall as a visual model. I cant make that more clear and it is what it is.Ill acknowledge It takes a little bit of computer knowledge to merge the PA A320 model with the wilco panel/features to also make it have fly -by - wire (or even with the Airsimmer panel if you so choose) and to add vasFMC to make the PA A320 the best A320 out there. But your statement seems to have nothing to do with that and is purely on the "visual" aspect of both models. You jump the gun on this one and while I could care less if someone thinks the AirSimmer is better than the PA320 overall because the PA320 lacks a virtual cockpit and sounds and panel and you have to do a little bit of work yourself such as no self installer etc. However if one would take the time to follow one of the many tutorials on various websites to do all that to the PA320 you are loaded with repaints afterwards for almost every single airline as someone else eluded to here . The fact remains that their model overall looks better has more features.

There isn't another model of the Airbus A320 or A321 for that matter that is more accurate down to the signature double strobe or dropping ailerons feature than the Project Airbus A320. Those 2 features alone with wingflex make this not even up for debate. The PA A320 looks better than the AirSimmer and is more accurate overall as a visual model. I cant make that more clear and it is what it is.

These are standard on the AS320 model, have been for years, dynamic wingflex as well - plus accurate and independently controlled nose taxi, nose takeoff, two stage retracting main landing lights, runway turnoff lights, wing lights, wipers and more - and we have not even started on the incredible VC to control it all, which is also a part of the model. In fact, just how long have you been around fs? Accurate hard coded strobes on a dynamic wing for instance have been around for years - PSS did it on their now ancient A330/40.Look, tell you what they're both great pieces of work by very talented artists no question. You have your opinion, I have mine. Peace

I think I should add the AS A320 has deflected ailerons with configuration 1+F and above that actually affects vls lift and alpha max.I'm not too much of a visual guy and stay in the vc with pretty much all addons I own so won't try and compare that.What I do know is the AS A320 is not a default style addon with just pretty visuals, a huge amount is going on behind the scenes system wise and being fed back to the user via the SECS, ELACS and FAC's It would be impossible to merge it with any other visual model.Seems to be many myths out there about the product but I will give you one out of hundreds of small details that made me keep it.I don't know of any airbus addon for FS9 that dynamically reads the weather, try landing on a wet/snow covered runway compared to a dry runway and see how vastly different the braking behaviour is, lose the green hydraulic system and the brakes switch to the yellow back upSystem with a loss of nose wheel steering and a bunch of other systems get degraded. Just a small fraction of what is coded out of the FCOMRegards

Braking action? NOW he tells me! :( That must be why I missed my turnoff last night after missed app/landing at KSFO during that deluge. That's not very good support Rob, I needed that info sooner

Hehe, I think the worst combination is freezing rain, the braking action will be almost nil. Also your brake temps affect the performance, although they work better around 100c When warm, if you have a short turnaround have hot brakes and then reject the take off you will just fry the brakes around 700c.The brake fan button next to the autobrakes is there for a reason ;)

The brake fan button next to the autobrakes

Love listening to it once I overheat my brakes! :( :(

I never even knew the bloody thing was there, much less worked - I really do need to do some reading :Nerd:sshhh, don't tell the pax. :(

These are standard on the AS320 model, have been for years, dynamic wingflex as well - plus accurate and independently controlled nose taxi, nose takeoff, two stage retracting main landing lights, runway turnoff lights, wing lights, wipers and more - and we have not even started on the incredible VC to control it all, which is also a part of the model. In fact, just how long have you been around fs? Accurate hard coded strobes on a dynamic wing for instance have been around for years - PSS did it on their now ancient A330/40.Look, tell you what they're both great pieces of work by very talented artists no question. You have your opinion, I have mine. Peace

I think I should add the AS A320 has deflected ailerons with configuration 1+F and above that actually affects vls lift and alpha max.I'm not too much of a visual guy and stay in the vc with pretty much all addons I own so won't try and compare that.What I do know is the AS A320 is not a default style addon with just pretty visuals, a huge amount is going on behind the scenes system wise and being fed back to the user via the SECS, ELACS and FAC'sIt would be impossible to merge it with any other visual model.Seems to be many myths out there about the product but I will give you one out of hundreds of small details that made me keep it.I don't know of any airbus addon for FS9 that dynamically reads the weather, try landing on a wet/snow covered runway compared to a dry runway and see how vastly different the braking behaviour is, lose the green hydraulic system and the brakes switch to the yellow back upSystem with a loss of nose wheel steering and a bunch of other systems get degraded.Just a small fraction of what is coded out of the FCOMRegards

Rob, I think I'm gonna spend my $39.95 sometime this week. The fact that you're the support guy, I know where I should go to in case problems occurred. I have a strong feeling that I WILL encounter problems but i dunno why I'm still gonna buy it (I have to admit, the cockpit is awesome and the sound is just right as I saw in some YT videos)... I have no idea what the advance edition has that the basic doesn't.. but GOD Knows when the advance will be released, and it's $90..they'd better have good reasons to sell a non-pmdg addon that costs more than $80.One more question:- A guy asked whether basic edition costumers would get a discount for the advance edition. I'd like to know more, i'm not trying to push you with answers, just a reminder that it does make sense.. If not, may wait for the advance and I aint sure I can wait like forever.Thanx.Regards

Does Airsimmer have a fully functional overhead? (what is basic about the basic version? Is it like CaptainSim basic?)

Does Airsimmer have a fully functional overhead? (what is basic about the basic version? Is it like CaptainSim basic?)

First question yes, second question no.Sorry, typed in a rush using my iPhone on my way out. The basic is pretty much the advanced with the ECAM memo faults removed, failure panel removed and fuel predictions removed. Also init--B is automatically filled out. All other systems, elec, pneumatic, hydraulic, flight control laws, FADEC, fuel, ELACS, SECs, FAC's etc etc are coded straight from jet blues FCOMS and level-d simulators.Only thing not working on the overhead is the fire handles, but that has already been completed on the advanced.Regards

First question yes, second question no.Sorry, typed in a rush using my iPhone on my way out.Only thing not working on the overhead is the fire handles, but that has already been completed on the advanced.Regards

So they(AirSimmer) ARE working on an FSX version?

So they(AirSimmer) ARE working on an FSX version?

They are working on a fs9 version, if the advanced goes to plan, then the A330/340 and then FSXBut who knows, I am just focusing on helping the FS9 users.Anyway, FSLABS are creating an FSX version, the lead developer was part of the PMDG team that created the 747-400 so I am 99% sure they are going to produce something awesome for that platform.

PSS Merged with PA and you have a ton of repaints.

+1I've merged the PSS panel with the PA model and made some of my own .cfg and .air tweaks and it indeed can satisfy the A320 itch once in a while. Hand flying can be pretty fun and is pretty satisfying, but alas the systems side may never be fully rendered in FS9. Hoping PA makes an A330 or A340 in the future, opening the door for more PSS merges.